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littlemissmartypants

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10. Here's the data...

Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:59 PM

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VP Harris needed to do better than Biden and Trump to win but the unaffiliated who we needed didn't vote for her and all the other Democrats we needed who voted for Biden stayed home.

As hard as we worked, as extensive as our ground game was, as much money as we donated and spent...it still wasn't enough to bring out our fellow Democrats who voted for President Biden and have them vote for Kamala. Our own peeps left us high and dry, apparently.

The numbers in question:
2020 JB 81,283,501
2024 KH 71,159,488
Difference: 10,124,013

I definitely want to know what happened. What happened to those 10,124,013 MILLION VOTERS??

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Say whatever but I'm being asked to believe some things [View all] moniss Nov 11 OP

The Odds Of Losing EVERY Swing State Were Very High SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #1

Imitation Game Blue Full Moon Nov 11 #3

Just curious how you Progressive dog Nov 12 #84

Harris sure seemed to have all the momentum at the end SomedayKindaLove Nov 11 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #5

Biden polled very unpopular no matter what he did. Klarkashton Nov 11 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 11 #6

He was extremely unpopular. I never experienced Klarkashton Nov 11 #7

Yeah I never got the Biden hate jfz9580m Nov 12 #78

Gaza OrangeJoe Nov 12 #91

Yup-pretty much.nt jfz9580m Nov 12 #96

And I will NEVER be able to understand why. calimary Nov 11 #26

Nor me. 3catwoman3 Nov 11 #67

Mainly because he picked Kamala as his VP. Next because he ran a second time when he intimated that he would not. Jit423 Nov 11 #68

Fox news, that's who complained about him. Relentlessly. Until people believed it. SharonAnn Nov 11 #69

All of the media complained relentlessly Bettie Nov 12 #80

Inherited it ? CentralMass Nov 11 #28

Harris didn't poll poorly. live love laugh Nov 11 #41

People who got student loan and cannabis_flower Nov 12 #94

There was no possible way to make good on Klarkashton Nov 12 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 11 #8

just on the question on new registrations Hamlette Nov 11 #9

I've done registration outreach at high schools... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #12

Here's the data... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #10

Once again--there are MILLIONS of votes in Calif., Oregon, and WA yet to be spooky3 Nov 11 #11

I've been watching that KH total every day and littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #14

I don't think AP has posted updates since Friday - for example, spooky3 Nov 11 #15

I know. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #19

Yes, I don't think she will reach Biden's numbers but she may get closer. spooky3 Nov 11 #20

Lawrence O just said that PA also has lots of votes to count. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #63

78% now soandso Nov 11 #45

That's not AP, but maybe AP gets its #s from that site. spooky3 Nov 11 #52

I don't know where Decision Desk appeared from soandso Nov 11 #56

The net of those uncounted votes would have to swing MASSIVELY in Harris's favor to make much difference. paleotn Nov 11 #23

I did not argue that she would gain, let alone net, 10M votes. But she will likely spooky3 Nov 11 #25

Understood. The gap may narrow a bit but it's still a huge gap. Weird. Just weird. paleotn Nov 11 #31

Current numbers soandso Nov 11 #47

The anomaly was 2020 soandso Nov 11 #46

All the votes have not been counted yet. Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #17

I know. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #21

At best she gets 6M of those. At best. More likely 5.5M or less. The gap won't close much. paleotn Nov 11 #24

My personal opinion is that a lot of voters in 2020 were upset about how spooky3 Nov 11 #29

Can't argue with that. I just can't wrap my head around how even that could shift 2020 this much. paleotn Nov 11 #36

I agree. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #37

2020 had record turn out due to covid accommodations LeftInTX Nov 11 #30

The votes didn't switch soandso Nov 11 #48

Look at the down ballot races! LeftInTX Nov 11 #50

How? soandso Nov 11 #53

Yep. Compare with a benign statewide or countywide race LeftInTX Nov 11 #55

So, it's not more voting down ballot now soandso Nov 11 #58

You left third party candidates out of your stats. LeftInTX Nov 11 #60

True! soandso Nov 11 #62

thanks either way! nt spooky3 Nov 11 #64

We don't really have the data to show crossovers, yet. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #66

How much of that number was successful vote supression? JHB Nov 11 #49

And, we lost a million people during COVID. nt spooky3 Nov 11 #65

See the thom Hartman show NJCher Nov 12 #77

All those big deal things you cited that you and we all really care about? They don't mean doodly squat to maggots. NBachers Nov 11 #13

Really can't argue with that. It won't matter to them. paleotn Nov 11 #27

Robinson is black. mnhtnbb Nov 11 #38

To a degree, yes. But Tim Scott doesn't seem to have a problem with it. paleotn Nov 11 #39

What are the exit polls saying? Unless those are tampered with too. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 11 #16

Voter Turnout dsvajda Nov 11 #18

Thank you! That is what I've been trying to get across to people. littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #22

Could it in any way be because too many people just aren't ready for a woman president? calimary Nov 11 #32

I didn't say you were insensitive or even that turnout wasn't depressed. I just said we don't yet have all the facts so spooky3 Nov 11 #33

Wow....that is a massive falloff. How many voted in 2016? yourout Nov 11 #34

Turnout was higher in 2024 than 2016 LeftInTX Nov 11 #35

Yes, true per Google AI--population was about 4% higher but voters about 14% higher spooky3 Nov 11 #57

The GOP areas are where all the lines were this cycle. LeftInTX Nov 11 #59

Trump has NOT had a huge increase in votes from the last election soandso Nov 11 #40

So you think that it's not odd that he lost not one single voter of any kind moniss Nov 11 #70

Not really soandso Nov 11 #72

But all of his voters moniss Nov 12 #74

He got roughly the same number of votes as in 2020 soandso Nov 12 #75

The fourth thing! CommonHumanity Nov 11 #42

I didn't think Harris would win Georgia. Ilsa Nov 11 #43

The fourth thing! CommonHumanity Nov 11 #44

what happened is covid caused inflation, and Biden/Harris got blamed for it Takket Nov 11 #51

I've wondered too. And trump won all the swing states... brush Nov 11 #54

moniss.......... Upthevibe Nov 11 #61

Being an old Techie.. bobalew Nov 11 #71

A lot of people who were upset about Gaza seem to have stayed home or voted Trump. summer_in_TX Nov 12 #73

I had this disagreement w the polls all year. D23MIURG23 Nov 12 #76

What I've come to understand... Montauk6 Nov 12 #79

How long ago did Musk give Putin Starlink? Plenty of time for Russia to use it to hack our election. 58Sunliner Nov 12 #81

The only thing that makes sense... Dem4life1970 Nov 12 #82

In 2020 it was mail in ballots PennRalphie Nov 12 #83

It's a money grab CindalaB Nov 12 #85

Don't believe the BS ms.pamela Nov 12 #86

Also rmember the close relationship of Musk and Putin. nt moniss Nov 12 #90

Check out @Spoonamore on Spoutible nbsmom Nov 12 #92

FUCK TRUMP Obamna Nov 12 #87

mathematically impossible ItsMaam Nov 12 #88

Also Eloon Musk apparently used his Starlink satellite to transmit election results OMGWTF Nov 12 #89

I don't know... onlyadream Nov 12 #93

There's no doubt repugs cheated and a lot of us are clinging to a hope KS Toronado Nov 12 #97