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Fiendish Thingy

(18,670 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 11:36 PM Nov 11

Hey, Garland bashers and haters, I got some fresh red meat for you right HERE! [View all]

From yours and my favorite reality based site, emptywheel:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/11/11/how-garland-whinger-ankush-khardoris-willful-impotence-helps-trump-evade-accountability/

It is precisely the reason I’m so impatient with the Merrick Garland whinger industry, which has flourished again since Trump’s win: because they replicate precisely the impotence that got us here. They always asked that Garland do the work, singlehandedly, of making Trump go away, without considering the political groundwork that was necessary to any successful legal case.
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He addresses SCOTUS’ actions in four paragraphs close to the end of his rant. He ignores how their interventions on the Colorado case and Fischer also affected DOJ’s options, and never mentions precisely how long they stalled the case: eight months, with a guarantee of more on the back end. Once you address SCOTUS’ delays and rewriting of the Constitution, it’s not clear a case could ever have been brought before an election, even ignoring how COVID stalled everything for a year, to say nothing of bringing an insurrection charge that would be (per the Colorado decision) the only thing that could disqualify Trump from office. If that’s the case, it wouldn’t matter whether Garland or a gun-toting Adam Schiff, as prosecutor, were in charge. SCOTUS’ intervention, assuming it would have been the same whether it happened in 2021 or 2022 or 2023, was decisive. Trump’s judges made a prosecution of him before the election impossible and further ruled that the only thing that could disqualify him was an insurrection charge.
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More importantly, WaPo focused on Steve D’Antuono’s hesitancy to turn to the fake electors, even as DOJ was pushing to do so. Which is to say that D’Antuono — someone no longer at DOJ — was the key cause for delay, not Garland.
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Donald Trump is about to do a great deal of outrageous things at the start of his term to reverse the treatment of January 6 as a crime. The response cannot be to say, ho hum, if only that awful Merrick Garland would have yelled louder, and give up, especially not when no amount of yelling was going to change what SCOTUS did.

The response is to stop hoping for a sparkle unicorn to do this work for us. The response is to take some agency for making the case about Donald Trump. And a first step in that process is to stop blaming Garland for things — the public record shows — he didn’t do, and especially to stop blaming Garland for things that more important villains, like John Roberts, did do.

The first step to effective accountability is to identify the actual villain.


Much much more at link, with evidence based links to back everything up.

Happy ranting and scapegoating! Flame away!
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Sooo if Trump had a full beard and a turban and slightly darker skin on J6 and said his words you're claiming the DOJ uponit7771 Nov 11 #1
Straw man Fiendish Thingy Nov 11 #2
Dodge uponit7771 Nov 13 #8
Hard to dodge a dodge Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #10
But that is not but an aside. cachukis Nov 11 #3
VP Kamala harris votes dumped in trash by poll worker Passionate Dem Nov 13 #57
Garland spent 4 years prosecuting absolute nobody's, protecting billionaires from bitcoin theft and protecting TSF usonian Nov 11 #4
It's so strange that defending or attacking Garland is a cottage industry Ilikepurple Nov 12 #5
I'm a fan of reality, not Garland. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 12 #6
I'm glad you have independent access to the truth. Ilikepurple Nov 12 #7
For several years you were a fan of Merrick the Meek. republianmushroom Nov 13 #37
As I said before Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #41
We are called Garland bashers and haters for Emile Nov 13 #9
Not at all Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #11
He was literally in charge angrychair Nov 13 #24
Garland was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court? Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #26
We are truly doomed angrychair Nov 13 #31
Didn't have any trouble with the SC when he went after Hunter Biden at the Republicans demands.... Bengus81 Nov 13 #58
A justified scapegoat IMO. flying_wahini Nov 13 #54
Read the article. Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #56
Yeah, we are to blame. msfiddlestix Nov 13 #13
True claudette Nov 13 #79
Even better, he should've personally prosecuted trump as soon as he took office. brush Nov 13 #80
Yep claudette Nov 13 #82
Seriously? So we are to blame, are we? msfiddlestix Nov 13 #12
Looks like that's who they're blaming. Emile Nov 13 #14
To blame for what? Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #15
The man who gave TFG a two year head start prodigitalson Nov 13 #16
Which man? Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #18
Uh huh prodigitalson Nov 13 #43
You know, I'm beginning to understand why Ken Starr resorted to leaking dicey information on Clinton. Baitball Blogger Nov 13 #17
Poor wittle Mewwick everyone is so mean to him. BannonsLiver Nov 13 #19
I do not think Garland GAF what anyone says about him. Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #20
Seems more like propaganda from his devotees. BannonsLiver Nov 13 #21
If you can't discern verifiable facts from propaganda... Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #22
That's fortunate for him. prodigitalson Nov 13 #44
You're spitting in the wind here. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #23
It won't be the first time Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #28
Well, Merrick the Meek, was supposedly the top dog at the DOJ wasn't he ? republianmushroom Nov 13 #25
While you count the months... Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #29
The reality that lies ahead is trump walks. Yes! republianmushroom Nov 13 #33
If that is your primary focus Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #34
It has been for 45 months and counting and it will continue to be one of my primary focuses. republianmushroom Nov 13 #36
Wow... Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #39
And the is your reply. Got it. republianmushroom Nov 13 #40
This was alerted n/t Just_Vote_Dem Nov 13 #75
Nothing to see here, everybody move along...lol prodigitalson Nov 13 #45
I haven't been on the bash Garland train, but I am pissed that an entire YEAR was wasted just to appoint Jack Smith themaguffin Nov 13 #27
Smith was appointed 48 hours after Trump declared his candidacy Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #30
Trump running or not, should not have been a factor in this moving forward. themaguffin Nov 13 #48
The investigation was moving forward Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #50
Ok... themaguffin Nov 13 #60
Kind of wonder why this entire OP isn't considered flame bait Orrex Nov 13 #32
Is it ridicule to stand for verifiable reality? Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #35
Petulantly inviting people to "flame away" kind of erases your imagined credibility Orrex Nov 13 #38
The truth is the truth Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #42
Thankfully, you aren't the arbiter of truth, and that's the punchline Orrex Nov 13 #46
Indeed, I'm not the arbiter of the truth, only the messenger Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #61
I'm sure that you believe yourself to be the messenger, rather than the catapult. Orrex Nov 13 #66
The article (from the Daily Mail rag) is about Biden's frustration over Hunter's prosecution Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #68
LOL Just_Vote_Dem Nov 13 #76
the trash and bash syndrome stillcool Nov 13 #47
Calling a large amount of du bashers and haters Emile Nov 13 #49
IMNSHO... Ysabel Nov 13 #51
Let's go back to the beginning when Garland took over gab13by13 Nov 13 #52
The hatred is strong in this one. nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #59
Name me 1 item in my post that is not true gab13by13 Nov 13 #62
None of it is true Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #63
Exactly, you can't. gab13by13 Nov 13 #67
I, and others, have, time and time again. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #70
You're dealing with the serious issues of many people like the proposition John Shaft Nov 13 #53
I'd like to suggest that... Think. Again. Nov 13 #55
Merrick Garland wasted little time gab13by13 Nov 13 #64
All SC's including Smith, were appointed in an appropriate, timely manner Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #65
You bet, thanks for reminding me gab13by13 Nov 13 #71
We agree that the prosecution was bogus. Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #73
I'm sick of Marcy Wheeler's condescending bullshit thebigidea Nov 13 #69
And yet, her assertions regarding the scapegoating of Garland remain unrefuted. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 13 #72
I actually read her latest gab13by13 Nov 13 #74
I don't believe she is an attorney Just_Vote_Dem Nov 13 #77
this isn't funny or a game ecstatic Nov 13 #78
If you'd read the article, you'd know there was nothing Garland could have done to "keep us safe" Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #84
So he preemptively gave up? ecstatic Nov 14 #91
The SCOTUS ruling would have come at whatever time Trump was indicted Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #94
If Garland had moved at the end of the Congressional investigation lees1975 Nov 13 #81
It's not my theory, it's just reality. Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #85
Give it a rest, already. Garland should've personally prosecuted trump as soon as... brush Nov 13 #83
If you'd read the article, you'd know that's not true. Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #86
Hah. Garland failed spectacularly and you just don't want to admit it. brush Nov 14 #87
Again- Swift and total conviction of all charges would not have stopped a second Trump term Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #88
Yeah sure. The nation would've voted for a jailed criminal. brush Nov 14 #89
Did you miss the election of the first convicted felon last week? Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #90
Did you miss he hasn't been jailed. And how silly to think other rethugs... brush Nov 14 #92
Worse than Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions, or Alberto Gonzales or Francis Biddle? Fiendish Thingy Nov 14 #93
Depends on your perspective. The AG who failed to prosecuter a president who tried to ovethrow.... brush Nov 14 #95
..-. --. Stinky The Clown Nov 14 #96
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