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The_REAL_Ecumenist

(891 posts) Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:40 PM Nov 12

Again, I have no idea when ALOT of us deny that nefarious things happened tht UPENDED the election.... [View all]

For those here on DU who REFUSE to believe that there was ELECTION INTERFERENCE, CHEATING FROM ABROAD THAT HELPED THE APRICOT ASSHOLE courtesy of NEWSWEEK! Apparently reporters are also conspiracy Theorists:

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Donald Trump Has 'Obligations' to Those Who Brought Him to Power—Putin Ally

Lo and Behold:

Vladimir Putin aide has warned Donald Trump that he is "obliged" to fulfill promises he made during his presidential campaign to bring peace to Ukraine. The President-elect said repeatedly during his campaign to secure his return to the White House that he would put a stop to the more than two and a half years of war in Ukraine "within 24 hours."
And Nikolai Patrushev, part of the Russian president's inner circle and former Secretary of the Security Council, told the Russian newspaper Kommersant that Trump was duty-bound to act on his words.

Patrushev said: "To achieve success in the elections, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. And as a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.

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Again, I have no idea when ALOT of us deny that nefarious things happened tht UPENDED the election.... [View all] The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 12 OP

While I am not going to disagree, the average walking person has no leverage. DOJ, CIA and our Ninga Nov 12 #1

EXACTLY & let's just say that I KNOW peeps in the Intelligence that, although they were , um how do I put this.. The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 12 #9

rigged JoeBydun Nov 12 #2

Right keepthemhonestO Nov 12 #7

lol, TruthIsAll turned into a Trump 2020 truther. Utterly unsurprising. tritsofme Nov 12 #25

He didn't win but it looks like THIS TIME AROUND, he's not going to be able to just walze into the WH. The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 12 #13

it's a case of you clearly not understanding stopdiggin Nov 12 #21

No, Tulare county did not connect voting machines to Starlink Zeitghost Nov 14 #71

Yes, recounts would solve the whole problem... ananda Nov 12 #35

I'm with you keepthemhonestO Nov 12 #3

We are so in trouble. Seems our newly elected leader is oblicated to Putin and Russia. brush Nov 12 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Nov 12 #5

I'm glad this is getting traction Dem4life1234 Nov 12 #6

Team CT hard at work Bonx Nov 12 #8

After Jan 6th, nothing would surprise me! Emile Nov 12 #10

I'm getting irked at the sh*t-stirring going on here today, marybourg Nov 12 #11

I agree, investigations must be done to move this... Think. Again. Nov 12 #14

"many of the numbers don't make sense" (says some bozo on TiKTok ... ) stopdiggin Nov 12 #16

don't click on the thread if you don't like it NJCher Nov 12 #18

provide some evidence stopdiggin Nov 12 #23

no I'm not NJCher Nov 12 #29

I'm thoroughly invested in this thread stopdiggin Nov 12 #33

OK, when I get back from work NJCher Nov 12 #34

the fact that you interpret the username stopdiggin Nov 12 #36

How can we register our disagreement if we don't click?????? nt LAS14 Nov 12 #28

you've made your point many times before NJCher Nov 12 #31

Glad to know that you've noticed!!! Thanks!! nt LAS14 Nov 12 #32

Just saw apiece about the VFW peregrinus Nov 13 #52

the idea that the Russian (AND Chinese, and probably Iranians as well as others) stopdiggin Nov 12 #12

It wasn't Americans -- it was Russians who called in the bomb threats in PA pnwmom Nov 12 #38

"and I'm sure there were other examples" stopdiggin Nov 12 #40

Why are you dismissing the bomb threats that shut down polling places in multiple blue districts? nt pnwmom Nov 12 #44

not dismissing - saying that in the end stopdiggin Nov 13 #45

How do you know how much impact.. Ysabel Nov 13 #48

people trying to 'restrict' my vote ... stopdiggin Nov 13 #50

In NC alone the Republicans managed to purge 740K voter registrations in left leaning pnwmom Nov 13 #55

were those purges legal ? carried out according to agreed parameter and code? stopdiggin Nov 14 #59

Targeting blue districts and blue voters is cheating, even if R leaders allow it to happen nt pnwmom Nov 14 #61

there are a number of factors regarding why stopdiggin Nov 14 #69

This is from the Brennan Center for Justice. "Mass purges are the new voter suppression." pnwmom Nov 14 #77

did you read your own article ? stopdiggin Nov 14 #78

Why are you assuming that all the purging is normal state-sponsored purging pnwmom Nov 14 #79

and you are of course aware that Pennsylvania stopdiggin Nov 14 #80

I was hearing different respected observers then. And the margins weren't as big as you think. nt pnwmom Nov 13 #54

p.s. you can fuck off with your violin too... Ysabel Nov 13 #49

Because they echo the conspiracy theories of 4 years ago. If something happened that altered the outcome, prove it D23MIURG23 Nov 12 #15

thank you !! plainly stated - and quite necessary. stopdiggin Nov 12 #17

* you're RandiFan1290 Nov 14 #66

How 'bout you go read this link where the former Sec of Security Co & the video where the Registrar of Voters The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 12 #19

How about you read this discussion. onenote Nov 12 #22

people that understand this story stopdiggin Nov 12 #27

Yeah. Reality based is (was?) an important part of our identity. I'm distressed by DU... LAS14 Nov 12 #30

Wow. Do I disagree with this! Eyeball_Kid Nov 12 #37

then don't make claims stopdiggin Nov 13 #46

Oh for fuck's sake... Blue_Roses Nov 14 #68

appreciate your input stopdiggin Nov 14 #70

I don't think you get what I'm saying Blue_Roses Nov 15 #81

try rereading stopdiggin Nov 15 #83

Thank-you and well said! Blue_Roses Nov 14 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 12 #20

They did it a different way Loupe Garoue Nov 12 #24

Now that IS interesting. Ligyron Nov 13 #56

What link? I don't see a link. MineralMan Nov 12 #26

A lot, two words. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 12 #39

You can't just compare the results of one candidate Zeitghost Nov 14 #73

Sure I can. littlemissmartypants Nov 14 #74

You're correct Zeitghost Nov 14 #75

An appeal to drumpf's "word," and his sense of "duty?" JoseBalow Nov 12 #41

Right? Maybe Trump will accidentally fall out of a high window accidentally Orrex Nov 12 #42

"As a responsible person"? bluescribbler Nov 12 #43

I didn't say anything at the time, but Blue_Tires Nov 13 #47

Audit Autisminsight Nov 13 #51

This isn't really a "both sides" thing. There is a small contingent of conspiracy theorists on the internet tritsofme Nov 14 #72

But Joe welcomed Trump to the WH today? He was very accomodating and cordial. Jinny Nov 13 #53

Well it appears the senate race in pennsylvania will go to a recount Tribetime Nov 13 #57

I hear you. The problem at this point is that our side conceded and moved on ecstatic Nov 13 #58

*A lot Polybius Nov 14 #60

Post removed Post removed Nov 14 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 14 #63

I think there should be an audit in the three key states at least Meowmee Nov 14 #64

I don't refuse to believe anything. Where's the beef? TheKentuckian Nov 14 #65

My take is that pouring insane amounts of zorbasd Nov 14 #76

trump. a responsible person? Captain Zero Nov 15 #82