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neohippie

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93. After years of being told there was no evidence of election rigging now the shoe is on the other foot

Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:07 PM

Nov 12

One would hope that since there was no evidence of this happening in the last election, and it was looked at over and over, you hope that people would learn to trust the process.

If vote totals changed, there are audits in place that will find discrepancies. There is no easy way for the data set to be one thing before they are transmitted and something completely different after the data arrives without it raising alarms.

People who do these counts at county and state levels would notice it would take a lot of people to be involved and would be nearly impossible for votes and totals to change when they go from county, to state etc...

Sure skepticism is healthy but when you have one expectation and then get a result that doesn't fit, but let's wait for all the the first round of counting to finish, wait for the audits, ask your questions. But believing things without any evidence is why we still have people in our country that believe that Trump won in 2020.

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It's nearly a week since the voting, and given that I follow DU closely, just yesterday, I found out Musk and Starlnk.. [View all] usaf-vet Nov 11 OP

I thought the tabulators were also not hooked to the internet? Dennis Donovan Nov 11 #1

Perhaps not, but SheltieLover Nov 11 #3

Also, Shitler winning ALL of the swing states doesn't smell right. OMGWTF Nov 12 #89

The backhaul to the the secretary of state was by Starlink I believe. LiberalArkie Nov 11 #6

I agree Linda ladeewolf Nov 12 #91

Not in Virginia Beck23 Nov 11 #34

And who won Virginia? Mm Hmm. That's right. dchill Nov 11 #46

And not only that SomedayKindaLove Nov 11 #66

This is true, but Harris underperformed Biden by 5 pts AkFemDem Nov 13 #101

Tabulators in some counties like Duval do connect to the internet once the polls are closed. lostnfound Nov 12 #94

Do they actually run the data to tape? Dennis Donovan Nov 12 #95

Link? I keep seeing this compsiracy theroy, but there is never a link. FSogol Nov 11 #2

This article says they used Starlink tintinvotes Nov 11 #12

WHAT THE MUTHA FUCK ?! NO... hell naw !! NEVER would GQP allow dems billionair donor to be involved in any part uponit7771 Nov 11 #23

Baldwin says access to connectivity was improved this year thanks to Starlink satellite internet. Dennis Donovan Nov 11 #37

Many, MANY thanks to Starlink satellite internet, I'm sure. dchill Nov 11 #47

JHMC orangecrush Nov 11 #65

Thats not for counting votes Zeitghost Nov 11 #69

Link tintinvotes Nov 11 #70

California law forbids it Zeitghost Nov 11 #73

Maga tintinvotes Nov 11 #78

And this article says it wasnt. hootman Nov 11 #74

Investigate tintinvotes Nov 12 #90

You're bringing up the same nonsense the Qanon people did 4yrs ago hootman Nov 12 #97

Trust, but don't verify tintinvotes Nov 12 #99

Split ticket voting BEAT trump in 2020. hootman Nov 13 #100

Proof tintinvotes Nov 13 #104

Yes a LOT of these idiots work for Russia. We have the receipts. hootman Nov 13 #105

Giving up shouldn't be an option tintinvotes Nov 13 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author tintinvotes Nov 13 #107

Fraud tintinvotes Nov 13 #108

It's a conversation that some IT people are having. A discussion. I looked up Autumn Nov 11 #26

Mucho, mucho air between the ground and the Starlink satellite... dchill Nov 11 #51

I thought the famous Karl Rove - Megyn Kelly . . . John1956PA Nov 11 #4

Rove was astonished in 2012 about Ohio NameAlreadyTaken Nov 11 #7

Thank you for correcting me. I was mistaken about the year. n/t John1956PA Nov 11 #10

No problem... I remember when that happened NameAlreadyTaken Nov 11 #63

Trump stole it, fair and square. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 11 #5

Starlink was used tintinvotes Nov 11 #8

Probably Why OH Looked Suspect In 2004 SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #9

Starlink didn't exist until 2019, so you can rule out OH. ancianita Nov 11 #17

Can rule out Star Link gab13by13 Nov 11 #20

Right I was not suggesting Starlink WAS INVOLVED in OHIO. IT WAS NOT. It was two different election 1 old one current. usaf-vet Nov 11 #27

Okay. So in this context of your OP, Rove's team looked suspect then, yes, but not now. ancianita Nov 11 #30

Exactly! Again apologies for the confusion. My wife is away with the "girls" at quilting camp. She's my proof reader.... usaf-vet Nov 11 #40

According to Politfact this is another conspiracy. hootman Nov 11 #75

Again djt loaths rules, proceedures, and laws. magicarpet Nov 11 #11

Thanks. This needed to be said and needs a thoroughinvestigation. As I've said elsewhere, noone should rule out Starlink ancianita Nov 11 #13

Until Harris, Biden, etc., call for a recount, I'll sadly believe we lost. Silent Type Nov 11 #14

Why has Harris called for a recount. There is no problem doing that oldmanlynn Nov 11 #38

Why doesn't someone email them with this Linda ladeewolf Nov 11 #71

A current IT technician seems to think like you do. Autumn Nov 11 #15

I have a question for the poster, gab13by13 Nov 11 #16

If it was just for Casey then probably not oldmanlynn Nov 11 #42

If they have printed receipts or paper ballots yes. If the people read the receipt as it prints out that is. Hope22 Nov 11 #45

If it were done by a program, they would have to do a forensic investigation of the software, probably Meowmee Nov 11 #59

Didn't dumpy say before the election he already had enough votes, or something like that? Diamond_Dog Nov 11 #18

I've just always wondered what happens to the vote totals Eliot Rosewater Nov 11 #19

Looks like my question has been answered the answer is yes Starlink Eliot Rosewater Nov 11 #41

Yes after the 2004 Ohio theft for Bush V. Kerry Carl Rove pretty much showed his hand in 2012 joanbarnes Nov 11 #21

Now... -misanthroptimist Nov 11 #22

Yes, that's why recounts are done. Think. Again. Nov 11 #53

But Exit Polls ...... groundloop Nov 11 #24

Obviously investigations need to be performed to find reliable evidence. The chick egg or horse wagon which comes first. usaf-vet Nov 11 #43

They could have been Linda ladeewolf Nov 11 #72

they have every reason to have us chasing our tails over a supposed stolen election while they lock up power LymphocyteLover Nov 12 #98

I don't have information to share, but want to add a comment. The Musk - Starlink connection is extremely suspicious. liberalla Nov 11 #25

How do you know that Starlink was used to upload data to state tabulators? waterwatcher123 Nov 11 #28

It is admitted that starlink was used in this article... Think. Again. Nov 11 #52

This news article is pretty interesting - it mentions Starlink and a significant increase in first time voter turn out. waterwatcher123 Nov 12 #92

Bookmarking cilla4progress Nov 11 #29

Glad I am not the only suspicious one Loupe Garoue Nov 11 #31

Are encryption keys used BadgerKid Nov 11 #32

Sounds like Ohio in 2004 Beck23 Nov 11 #33

And We Rolled Over That Time Too SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #76

Didn't exactly roll over gab13by13 Nov 11 #80

Easy to believe that this or something like this happened. CoopersDad Nov 11 #35

I'm having a hard time JustAnotherGen Nov 11 #36

I don't know if this is specifically the case in NC, but there were many voters who voted for Trump but LauraInLA Nov 11 #44

living in NC I can believe it neohippie Nov 11 #50

The Repug Governor candidate Robinson was embroiled by scandals MichMan Nov 13 #102

Summary of evidence and concerns: (sources at bottom) Heck Nov 11 #39

Because he won. He doesnt give a shit johnnyfins Nov 11 #68

They look on Karl Rove's face on fox when Obama won the Ohio vote Clouds Passing Nov 11 #48

And no response or investigations from our current gov Meowmee Nov 11 #49

Why on earth was this even allowed? Figarosmom Nov 11 #54

Back in 2020, I was hoping trump Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #55

I was just about to post a question on this. I hesitated because I didn't want to break any rules I am not sure of. Jit423 Nov 11 #56

There would have to be a lot of people involved Diraven Nov 11 #57

WHAT WENT WROOONGGG! Thats all I've heard in a week. Boomerproud Nov 11 #58

It has to be something like this malaise Nov 11 #60

Weeks before the election he also said these things Jit423 Nov 11 #61

The #s just don't make any sense unless there has been some kind of malfeasance Botany Nov 12 #83

Yep Blue Full Moon Nov 11 #62

Oh don't be silly Cirsium Nov 11 #64

Stephen Spoonamore is good source .... Viz Nov 11 #67

This is a formal Duty to Warn Letter. - Gov. of Pennsylvania J. Shapiro, et al. - Nov. 7th 2024 ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 12 #84

Wasn't the IP address of the server that transmits the votes LittleGirl Nov 11 #77

You know how easy it would be to get tRump to confess? Blue Owl Nov 11 #79

And the magats would all cheer. mdbl Nov 12 #82

Swing state percentages are very nearly the same. Needs a forensic investigation. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 12 #81

Thank you for this. lark Nov 12 #85

just like 2008 DonCoquixote Nov 12 #86

They would have been caught Progressive dog Nov 12 #87

Not Just Swing States Phil1967 Nov 12 #88

Sorry and YOUR evidence is? Other than your a Trump supporter. usaf-vet Nov 12 #96

The numbers are all publicly available Zeitghost Nov 13 #109

Sure the numbers that could all be lies. When the Republicans lose it is ALWAYS a stolen election. When they "win"..... usaf-vet Nov 13 #110

After years of being told there was no evidence of election rigging now the shoe is on the other foot neohippie Nov 12 #93

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