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In reply to the discussion: ****BREAKING****Trump to establish commission to purge generals [View all]SARose
(970 posts)44. Who is leaking this and why?
Trump is a bully and these are bully tactics.
Little hands can sign all the executive orders he wants. Implementing them is another thing.
Can Presidents fire senior military officers? Generally, yes
but its complicated
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A little history: up until the end of the Civil War, the President exercised virtually unconstrained power to dismiss military officers. However, in 1865 Congress passed legislation which purports to limit that power. That legislation was essentially the same as that found today codified in 10 USC § 1161(a).
The legitimacy of Congress imposing statutory restrictions on the authority of the President to remove military officers was initially subject of doubt and discussion. It remains controversial even today, particularly since there doesnt seem to be a case precisely on point as to the constitutionality.
Nevertheless, the better view does seem to suggest that Congress has the power to set some limits on the Presidents dismissal authority at least in times of peace. That power would be properly founded in Congress Article I, Section 8, Clause 14 authority to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces. Still, the Presidents power of dismissal in time of war [is something] Congress has never attempted to limit.
So what does 10 U.S.C. § 1161(a) provide? Here is the text:
(a) No commissioned officer may be dismissed from any armed force except
(1) by sentence of a general court-martial;
(2) in commutation of a sentence of a general court-martial; or
(3) in time of war, by order of the President.
The legitimacy of Congress imposing statutory restrictions on the authority of the President to remove military officers was initially subject of doubt and discussion. It remains controversial even today, particularly since there doesnt seem to be a case precisely on point as to the constitutionality.
Nevertheless, the better view does seem to suggest that Congress has the power to set some limits on the Presidents dismissal authority at least in times of peace. That power would be properly founded in Congress Article I, Section 8, Clause 14 authority to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces. Still, the Presidents power of dismissal in time of war [is something] Congress has never attempted to limit.
So what does 10 U.S.C. § 1161(a) provide? Here is the text:
(a) No commissioned officer may be dismissed from any armed force except
(1) by sentence of a general court-martial;
(2) in commutation of a sentence of a general court-martial; or
(3) in time of war, by order of the President.
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****BREAKING****Trump to establish commission to purge generals [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
Nov 12
OP
The same day his EO that allows him to appoint whoever, wherever, without vetting, for life, goes into effect.
Runningdawg
Nov 12
#39
Well, the military will either S or get off the pot. Do they swear to uphold the Constitution or to Trump?
Jit423
Nov 12
#52
I never gave any credence to warnings about civil war happening... but this is the only thing I think would cause one.
kysrsoze
Nov 12
#4
Defenestration -- it's Putin's fave just now. Of course in the case of Russian generals, they can be assigned...
Hekate
Nov 12
#61
I'd bet this Supreme Court would have a majority allowing him to remove anyone from the military without reason
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 12
#47
WE need to start fucking messaging about this Orange motherfucker: "Trump weakens military putting troops at risk"
SoFlaBro
Nov 12
#34
That Orange Sack of Dogshit campaigned from the fucking Saturday back in November 2020 to 11/5/24
SoFlaBro
Nov 12
#40
Yeah, we should wait until he starts purging generals then write him a stern letter
Ilikepurple
Nov 12
#82
I'm curious if he is gonna re instate the generals that trashed him in the election. Then court-martial them.
mitch96
Nov 12
#53