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H2O Man

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Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:26 AM

Nov 13

I understood having Liz on stage. I disagree with her on everything policy-wise, but she did a good job on the J6C. I found it far, far more offensive to have that war criminal Dick Cheney on stage. A lot of people I know were unhappy with that. I mean, where do you stop? If Idi Amin was above soil and endorsed the Democrat, would that be a good thing?

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Liz Cheney Was an Electoral Fiasco for Kamala Harris [View all] Cattledog Nov 12 OP

perhaps an overbalance on that issue as well as too much on trump being a whack job which was already known nt msongs Nov 12 #1

totally disagree nt spooky3 Nov 12 #2

At this point they're just making shit up. live love laugh Nov 12 #26

They've been making shit up since the golden escalator. Initech Nov 12 #34

agreed 100% WarGamer Nov 12 #3

How do you stand being so. damned. right?? dpibel Nov 12 #37

That's a bit harsh. I don't think it helped but I don't think it alienated too many voters. Self Esteem Nov 12 #4

. Scrivener7 Nov 12 #5

As Lyndon Johnson said, cloudbase Nov 12 #6

I doubt Liz Cheney had anything to do with our loss. Elessar Zappa Nov 12 #7

I don't even like Liz Cheney but I admire her courage and appreciate her fighting for the Constitution. Jit423 Nov 12 #21

100% BlueTsunami2018 Nov 12 #8

I don't even understand. The mission was so simple. TheKentuckian Nov 12 #9

I found a few things about her campaign alienating The Wandering Harper Nov 12 #10

Nothing Harris' campaign did outweighed a goddamn thing that Orange Bastard said and did. SoFlaBro Nov 12 #15

it is possible to hold two thoughts at once The Wandering Harper Nov 12 #20

Just curious ClimateHawk Nov 12 #28

thank you for asking. It was mostly the convention that turned me off The Wandering Harper Nov 12 #31

Fair enough ClimateHawk Nov 13 #39

Right? I was like "wtff were they thinking with Oprah?" The Wandering Harper Nov 13 #42

first thing that comes to mind about the post-convention campaign The Wandering Harper Nov 12 #32

I think it was a waste of precious time appearing with Cheney Raven123 Nov 12 #11

Who fucking cares? Vote for Democrats. TheKentuckian Nov 12 #14

What a fucking joke. How the fuck do you lose "party first" people JI7 Nov 12 #17

Maybe I wasn't clear Raven123 Nov 12 #23

Guess we're at the granular stage GenThePerservering Nov 12 #12

Meh. I don't think there is good data to support such hyperbole. At some point the finger-pointing will become so hlthe2b Nov 12 #13

White women was one group where Harris did not lose support from previous elections JI7 Nov 12 #16

Not compared to Biden, but Harris lost some support spooky3 Nov 13 #44

I was guilty of giving her more credibility with Republican voters than she showed. kentuck Nov 12 #18

Why did Tester lose in Montana ? The nation is another grift JI7 Nov 12 #19

If that's true, that reaction to Cheney is as stupid as supporting Trump hawkeye21 Nov 12 #22

I thought it was stupid alarimer Nov 12 #24

She supported Allred and see what good that did grobertj Nov 12 #25

No: this is entirely on the voters who saw Trump as a Savior figure (saving them from the responsibility of decency) /nt artemisia1 Nov 12 #27

Totally agree nt Raine Nov 12 #29

Identify Politics fail. Republican women didn't cross over for Harris because of Liz Cheney. jalan48 Nov 12 #30

Didn't have a thing to do with the outcome. BannonsLiver Nov 12 #33

Liz had obnoxiousdrunk Nov 12 #35

I cringed all the way through it. But I thought... tman Nov 12 #36

For decades now, pundits on the TV have scolded Democrats to reach out to Republicans. Yavin4 Nov 12 #38

A little was ok just to thank her mvd Nov 13 #40

Recommended. H2O Man Nov 13 #41

Not wrong. Not right. IMO. notroot Nov 13 #43

Pfffft. Wingus Dingus Nov 13 #45

Oh, has The Nation backed off their anti-NATO, pro Russian "peace" stance yet? mathematic Nov 13 #46