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Ndp5

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44. They really cannot

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 08:55 AM

Nov 13

Contrast the quality of sites running on ad revenue alone to those that also rely on paywalls and subscription revenue. I am familiar with how both types of news operation work and there just is no comparison in terms of quality.

The fact is, print advertising was lucrative. Online advertising for news publications is cheap, cheap, cheap.

If you don’t like it, again, look to Google, which has a monopoly in search advertising. The judge in the trial underway now may also confirm that they have a monopoly in ad tech, the plumbing of the online ad world, and have been illegally manipulating how ad rates are set for everyone online.

Read the behind-the-scenes account from content creators trying to engage with Google that someone else posted in this thread. Google is a bad-faith actor that has shafted us all to make a buck. Or three hundred billion of them, to be more precise.

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The truest thing you will read today. [View all] Yavin4 Nov 12 OP

Can Jones start broadcasting again under a different name? peregrinus Nov 12 #1

With NYT, you get plenty of BS plus the privilege Bluetus Nov 13 #56

You must mean SANEWASHED truth costs. And it does. dchill Nov 12 #2

Truth plus several grains of salt with the NYT? brush Nov 12 #3

Also, media is all controlled by about six people Bettie Nov 12 #4

THANK YOU!! It is REPUBLICAN OWNED--"corporate" is not descriptive of ownership. live love laugh Nov 12 #10

The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it. CrispyQ Nov 13 #51

Would someone please list the 6 people? Seriously, I don't know who they all are. OverBurn Nov 13 #52

Some dumb shit is free and other dumb shit costs $9.99/mo, apparently. ECL213 Nov 12 #5

Closer to the truest thing than the other. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 12 #9

Caveat: littlemissmartypants Nov 12 #12

Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E Nov 12 #6

deleted. palinny Nov 12 #7

It's designed that way, I suspect. calimary Nov 12 #8

I wouldn't say NYT provides "the truth". Fiendish Thingy Nov 12 #11

I wouldn't either. Nor the Washington Post soldierant Nov 12 #36

True but few of the dumbass kinfuckers read that Yankee rag the NYT. Ligyron Nov 13 #46

FOX has been included in cable packages for free since the get-go MomInTheCrowd Nov 12 #13

PBS Mr.Bee Nov 12 #17

As I understand it markodochartaigh Nov 12 #21

yup! nt LittleGirl Nov 12 #28

I pay for cable and it includes Fox News Progressive dog Nov 13 #50

Fox ReadItnWeep Nov 12 #30

Their shit is free LeftInTX Nov 12 #14

The truth will set you free, but it'll cost you..... lastlib Nov 12 #15

Yeah, but it's gonna cost 'em more than $9.99 a month after Anal Fistula gets through with 'em. 3Hotdogs Nov 12 #16

I dispute that NYT is "the truth" Renew Deal Nov 12 #18

Agreed. The NYT is right-wing lies they want you to PAY for N/T Steven Maurer Nov 12 #19

MSNBC is difficult KT2000 Nov 12 #20

Yep. Discount on cable bill for 24:7 fox Ninga Nov 12 #24

FOX comes included in my basic cable package Ohioboy Nov 12 #22

i have been saying this for a long time. Liberal billionnaires are not willing to invest in free media samsingh Nov 12 #23

When all vetted and researched info is behind paywalls, the majority will see only lies, CT's and hate posts. usonian Nov 12 #25

This is the most important observation I've read DaBronx Nov 12 #26

RW Own the Media DownriverDem Nov 12 #27

How many of you use Google? Ndp5 Nov 12 #29

Bunk. They can make their online editions free with ads. Yavin4 Nov 12 #35

YouTube and Spotify don't have to spend the kind of money to get content that the online newspapers do. LauraInLA Nov 13 #40

Spotify pays for Joe Rogan Yavin4 Nov 13 #47

But many people pay for Spotify. A family account is something like $16 per month. LauraInLA Nov 13 #54

I'm not saying get rid of the paywall entirely. Yavin4 Nov 13 #55

Ok. I can't think of a realistic way to place a "must-read-or-view" ad in the middle of an article. It LauraInLA Nov 13 #57

They really cannot Ndp5 Nov 13 #44

I'm sorry. This is a cop out. Yavin4 Nov 13 #48

Comparing apples and Cheetos Ndp5 Nov 13 #58

Yep. I was just reading about Baumol's cost disease: LauraInLA Nov 13 #62

Related to our discussion: "Journalism's fight for survival in a postliterate democracy" LauraInLA Nov 13 #61

Thank you!!! LauraInLA Nov 13 #39

I don't use Google if I can help it jfz9580m Nov 13 #43

They're all over YouTube Montauk6 Nov 12 #31

Buffett tried to save local news but couldn't fix the ad biz Ndp5 Nov 13 #45

Everything I know about Trump did not come from conservative media ItsjustMe Nov 12 #32

Moonves 3:16 - "It may not be good for America, but it's DAMN good for CBS." Montauk6 Nov 13 #60

54% of Americans are literate to just below a sixth grade level. NYT written at too high of a grade level for most. Hotler Nov 12 #33

EXACTLY. SunSeeker Nov 12 #34

Kick dalton99a Nov 12 #37

I started to set up a spot on BlueSky The Wandering Harper Nov 12 #38

I like the name you're using here ;). Would that work for you? LauraInLA Nov 13 #41

thank you :) The Wandering Harper Nov 13 #42

I find lots of competent news in other countries RainCaster Nov 13 #49

I wouldn't exactly call the NYT true. lees1975 Nov 13 #53

Possible solution... Josiesdad Nov 13 #59

We need to do a huge info campaign about using your library membership to access e-periodicals. LauraInLA Nov 13 #63

It costs money to research for the truth. Lies are totally free. nt LAS14 Nov 13 #64