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Pacifist Patriot

(24,914 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:23 PM Nov 13

"Are you shutting out friends an family because of the election?" Closed-ended question with a lot of open-ended nuance. [View all]

I've been seeing a lot of posts in various social media platforms, as I'm sure most of us have, about cutting ties with friends and family who voted for him. It is easier for some people to do than others. My heart goes out to people who are financially dependent upon one or more of his voters/supporters - whether that is in the home or the workplace. I feel the utmost sympathy for folks who have one or more of his voters/supporters financially dependent upon them and are too kind to chuck them out. It takes a special kind of compassion and a strong moral compass to do that.

I'm fortunate on one side of my family. All of my close family members are democrats and vocal ones at that. I disengaged with my extended family years ago "over politics." Well, that's what they think. I have political disagreements with people all the time and our relationships stay strong and healthy.

As we all know here at DU, this election is far less about politics and much more about morality. Who we strive to be as individuals and how we want our communities and our society to reflect and embody our values was at stake. The very fabric of our fragile democracy was at stake. Political differences in a well-functioning democracy are about how we prioritize and address shared problems, not about whether we should have a democratic government at all.

I was able to disengage completely from my extended family because they aren't in my geographic sphere and I'm not on their social media platforms. I conveniently had plans already when family gatherings were proposed, most times legitimately. I truly have had conflicts for weddings, graduations, and holidays. In 2019 I promised my mom that I would attend one last family reunion for her sake and then never engage with them again.

On our way home from that trip, I asked my (mostly grown) children if they regretted not growing up with my cousins' kids like the others in their generation had. Seeing the other kids getting along so closely, I wondered if I made a mistake depriving them of that camaraderie and support. I got an immediate, "hell no!"

They proceeded to tell me how uncomfortable they had been and found my mom's family to be "mean" and "closed-minded" and "hurtful" and "ignorant" and a bunch of other adjectives along those lines. I hadn't overheard it but apparently there was a lot of casual racist and misogynist talk from my cousins' kids that profoundly disturbed them. Who apparently had no clue that their comments were in any way objectionable. My kids expressed gratitude for not being routinely exposed to that and asked for assurances that they would not be subjected to it again. They most definitely will not be.

I am stuck visiting my husband's parents for Thanksgiving, they are quite elderly and my father-in-law may not be around for much longer. My brother-in-law will be there and I know for certain he is a racist misogynist asshole who voted for him. How those two came from the same parents will baffle me to my dying day. My husband has made sure everyone knows that politics is a forbidden subject because if it comes up, I will not hold back. I won't start anything, but I sure as hell will finish it. I'm hoping for the best.

If you're cutting off ties, I wish you strength and applaud you for your convictions. I hope you have a support network in place and aren't too isolated as a result.

If you are unable to do so, I wish you the fortitude to make it through without losing your sanity. I hope you have a support network in place and aren't too burdened as a result.

I'm glad we have DU, but online relationships only go so far. Find someone to hold and to hold you back, even if it is a fur baby.

Deep breath.

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Yes nt SoCalDavidS Nov 13 #1
If they are MAGA, GOP, or DGAF . . . . Tansy_Gold Nov 13 #2
"And which one of you fucking cowards will try it?" canuckledragger Nov 13 #18
Some of them had guns Tansy_Gold Nov 13 #20
The few that haven't been cutoff will not be getting any phone calls anytime soon. Ferryboat Nov 13 #3
Nope. Not shutting out anyone. DFW Nov 13 #4
You are very lucky. Watch out for the AfD and the right-wingnuts in the rest of Europe. erronis Nov 13 #39
The AfD is ugly, but has most of its support in the former DDR DFW Nov 14 #45
Yes! Beatlelvr Nov 13 #5
No. (nt) Hippasus Nov 13 #6
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Nov 13 #19
Thanks! Hippasus Nov 13 #33
My bitch sister pretty sure doesnt vote XanaDUer2 Nov 13 #7
I'm mad at them but I'm not cutting off my family over it. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 13 #8
Two of my brothers. Cartoonist Nov 13 #9
I certainly have shut out friends an family because of the election. Autumn Nov 13 #10
In a word, yes JPPaverage Nov 13 #11
I don't allow people who agree with a man who has committed sex crimes John Shaft Nov 13 #12
Shutting out some friends and family members? Yes, indeed. Paladin Nov 13 #13
Taking time right now Johnny2X2X Nov 13 #14
Put them all to the curb in 2016. Found out Meadowoak Nov 13 #15
I had already weeded out a lot of Trump people who were friends/acquaintances Buckeyeblue Nov 13 #16
I am most fortunate. I am retired, have no family, have a circle of equally niyad Nov 13 #17
I'm Canadian, so Trump isn't as direct a threat to us as he is to you folks canuckledragger Nov 13 #21
You had to decide between abuse or sanity Clouds Passing Nov 13 #24
OT, but I just have to say I love your user name! ShazzieB Nov 13 #37
Yes Clouds Passing Nov 13 #22
I have with all but my father and he is too old and too good a man, just brainwashed with so many LizBeth Nov 13 #23
No way - if we ever want to unite as a country womanofthehills Nov 13 #25
That's an interesting anecdote. Making him think about the context of Bernie and Rand Paul. erronis Nov 13 #41
Already did back in 2016. ffr Nov 13 #26
Yes, everyone but close family, meaning wayward grown kids. Heart breaking. txwhitedove Nov 13 #27
Cut then off years ago.... joanbarnes Nov 13 #28
Luckily nobody in my immediate family is maga kimbutgar Nov 13 #29
I wish we would shut-out the corporations, businesses and hate radio advertisers that bought us this shitshow first maxrandb Nov 13 #30
Yes. Ursus Arctos Nov 13 #31
Yes, round three Orrex Nov 13 #32
Started cutting ties after Bush 2. La Coliniere Nov 13 #34
I don't have to. It happened gradually over time. Demobrat Nov 13 #35
Fortunately most of my family is blue Roc2020 Nov 13 #36
Interesting. I was in Rochester last week at my son's senior recital. Pacifist Patriot Nov 13 #42
Mine's fairly easy. I've cut any friend/friends that vote/worship that degrading bag of protoplasm. chouchou Nov 13 #38
Yes... family of my long term partner. They never liked me, Ive tried so hard with them over the yrs. PortTack Nov 13 #40
wish people sanity too... Ysabel Nov 13 #43
Oh my Pacifist Patriot Nov 14 #47
I don't associate with racists. nt RandiFan1290 Nov 13 #44
No, absolutely not. We have plenty of other things to talk about Raine Nov 14 #46
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