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AloeVera

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191. A few facts for the fact-deprived/averse.

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:00 AM

Nov 14

The Muslim vote did not cost us the election.

The majority voted for Stein, not Trump.

It was not Trump who made the UN Ambassador veto three (?) ceasefire proposals at the UN, refused to put conditions on US funding despite Israel flouting of all laws of war and humanity, let red lines disappear under bloody mangled bodies and on and on and on. Perhaps you have not been following events closely.

I do think Trump and Bibi have been in cahoots since their meeting in July and hence no ceasefire and the war-mongering. By then, though, Gaza was rubble and its children destroyed by malnutrition, disease and trauma.

Evil was done under our noses, and with our weapons. That had consequences.

Blaming the ineffective Muslim protest vote is just more of head-meet-sand with a good dose of Muslim-bashing thrown in for good measure.

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Dearborn Residents Show Remorse After Trump Win: 'He's Playing Us' [View all] kansasobama Nov 13 OP

FAFO RandySF Nov 13 #1

Fucked around and the "find out" is the Huckster.... probably, with a little help from Jesus. 3Hotdogs Nov 13 #77

* underpants Nov 13 #79

Don't worry folks, Jill Stein will sort it out for you. BannonsLiver Nov 13 #2

I'm sure Jillsie will be right on it -- in 4 years Hekate Nov 13 #63

Jillsie is collecting lots of money NEOH Nov 13 #139

Does she Scubamatt Nov 15 #278

God only knows, but I think it has something to do with that dinner she & Gen. Flynn had w Putin... Hekate Nov 15 #280

Yeah, Like she Fucking did in 2016 for World Class Suckers. Cha Nov 13 #107

He wasn't playing them - they chose to ignore the obvious tenderfoot Nov 13 #3

Misled? I don't think so sarisataka Nov 13 #4

We are about to witness BigMin28 Nov 13 #15

Call Donald. Call Jill. Check the couch cushions. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #183

It's what they voted for Sundance1220 Nov 14 #194

Good luck prodigitalson Nov 13 #90

NO you Abandon Harris IDIOTS.. you ARE ReSPONSIBLE .. Enjoy. Cha Nov 13 #111

To get revenge they will cause more genocide? MadameButterfly Nov 13 #164

Personally, I think tsf leaked Israeli intel which showed louis-t Nov 14 #227

"I didn't know the leopard would eat my face!" sakabatou Nov 13 #5

We're going to be seeing a lot of fat leopards. StarryNite Nov 13 #53

What anticipatory schadenfreud in this whole thread. AloeVera Nov 13 #162

When Jews vote for Hitler it's hard to feel sorry for them EX500rider Nov 14 #203

But you see, that's just it! AloeVera Nov 14 #205

Well they're about to find out just how wrong they are aren't they? EX500rider Nov 14 #212

Yes, we should blame and scoff at them for thinking it couldn't get any worse. AloeVera Nov 14 #218

Yes I blame everyone that helped to get mango Mussolini elected EX500rider Nov 14 #226

Sure. But we should blame some more than others is what I'm seeing. AloeVera Nov 14 #230

Well I expect the crypto-fascist right Wingers to vote for Trump EX500rider Nov 14 #235

Then they're either stupid Sundance1220 Nov 15 #260

No... 2naSalit Nov 13 #6

It's like they were so spiteful, they shot themselves in the dick. Baitball Blogger Nov 13 #18

It's like they were so spitefull, they shot themselves in the dick. MLWR Nov 14 #209

More stupidity. You could have loved to fight another day. Now fuck off with the consequences you have hoisted up us all onecaliberal Nov 13 #7

We have to stand back and not rescue them. We do it every time and think they will repay us and they don't! PortTack Nov 13 #8

I agree atreides1 Nov 13 #31

The Latino thing is different LeftInTX Nov 13 #65

Thanks Hekate Nov 13 #71

What ideas? Doing away with Social Security? Canceling Cha Nov 13 #123

I know. This is what will bring them back to us. LeftInTX Nov 13 #126

Mahalo LeftinTX. Cha Nov 13 #131

EVERY Trump voter will be affected by his policies! NickB79 Nov 13 #144

Latino men. Hassler Nov 13 #146

So are Cubans. We have nicely divided the Hispanic or Latinos so they will never be a threat to the RW. Jit423 Nov 15 #279

Yup nycbos Nov 13 #55

Or decrease the surplus population. Either way. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #184

Who? peregrinus Nov 14 #215

duh. Think. Again. Nov 13 #9

They helped set the place on fire BigMin28 Nov 13 #10

Is that what they call a "pyrrhic victory"? Drum Nov 13 #11

He isn't playing with you wryter2000 Nov 13 #12

yup Trump said it out loud many times. Gaza would make great beach front property etc. ZonkerHarris Nov 13 #30

The "we got played" is a false flag. They knew upfront and were eager for it. TheKentuckian Nov 13 #35

I sympathize with Gaza wryter2000 Nov 13 #13

So do I. lees1975 Nov 13 #32

Yeah those ungrateful, uppity Muslims/Arabs got what's coming to them. AloeVera Nov 13 #74

It was too much to ask. yardwork Nov 13 #83

Even the threat of conditioning of funding was "too much to ask". AloeVera Nov 13 #136

Well, I guess you know better than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. yardwork Nov 13 #140

So Israel should adhere to all the "laws" Sundance1220 Nov 14 #201

What's your point? AloeVera Nov 15 #262

I never said it was okay Sundance1220 Nov 15 #267

SERIOUS people don't make empty threats Sundance1220 Nov 15 #261

Lol. Nt AloeVera Nov 15 #263

More of a general ME thing....vengeance as a virtue, that is prodigitalson Nov 13 #97

My family is Armenian from Turkey LeftInTX Nov 13 #114

Absolutely, regarding ME Christians...see Lebanese militias prodigitalson Nov 13 #133

I can tell you Armenian on Armenian crime was real LeftInTX Nov 13 #159

I would vote for the person wryter2000 Nov 13 #113

I would too - if I believed that. AloeVera Nov 13 #142

As I recall wryter2000 Nov 13 #148

Gaza julmur Nov 13 #116

So they vote for something worse..got it LeftInTX Nov 13 #118

Judge not... AloeVera Nov 13 #147

They said wryter2000 Nov 13 #150

So you think the Democrats are the party of genocide? LeftInTX Nov 13 #156

I see. AloeVera Nov 13 #161

Elections have consequences calilama Nov 14 #214

Many Americans will be hurting as a consequence of their vote. Beastly Boy Nov 13 #167

Well, they showed us. Scrivener7 Nov 13 #158

Maybe ... just maybe UpInArms Nov 13 #173

A few facts for the fact-deprived/averse. AloeVera Nov 14 #191

Cool UpInArms Nov 14 #210

If the thought was that in return for helping Chump to the throne TheKentuckian Nov 14 #186

Have any of you asked actual Gazans Sundance1220 Nov 14 #198

Glass houses. AloeVera Nov 14 #202

Spare me the talk about 1948 Sundance1220 Nov 14 #206

I don't see any other people expected to quietly acquiesce to donate/gift out of the goodness of their hearts, AloeVera Nov 14 #208

So I'll put you in the category of those Sundance1220 Nov 14 #211

They learned those tactics over there LeftInTX Nov 13 #89

Why? Same same is the Death to Israel and Death to America cult. TheKentuckian Nov 13 #38

Not only just Gaza,... they have much bigger plans to cleanse,.. magicarpet Nov 13 #132

Whatever TCF does to you and your families, you did to yourself. RockRaven Nov 13 #14

You played yourselves Keepthesoulalive Nov 13 #16

I can see the bumper stickers popping up soon. calimary Nov 13 #141

the military will not be sending them to gitmo, they will kill them all given Huckabee's take JT45242 Nov 13 #17

They'll especially be disappointed when their rapture doesn't go as planned, and they wind up in extreme pain. Crowman2009 Nov 14 #207

Stevie Wonder could see this one coming. Vinca Nov 13 #19

Might want to contact Congresswoman Tlaib Raven123 Nov 13 #20

Damn, live and learn. republianmushroom Nov 13 #21

And they knew this before the election mcar Nov 13 #22

Congrats, now you're just as fucked as the rest of us. Basso8vb Nov 13 #23

We tried to warn you, but you didn't listen meow2u3 Nov 13 #24

They can GTFO with their buyers remorse. EllieBC Nov 13 #25

oh well RJ_MacReady Nov 13 #26

my new response to anyone who voted to shoot themselves in the face: FirstLight Nov 13 #27

I feel that in two weeks I may have a concept of thoughts and prayers. TheKentuckian Nov 13 #152

No fucks to give for them. Suckers and fools. "We wanted to punish the Democrats." Now Gaza will be reduced to rubble ZonkerHarris Nov 13 #28

"Now Gaza will be reduced to rubble". AloeVera Nov 13 #37

What do you think Trump's policies will be? Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 13 #115

This bdamomma Nov 13 #135

did you not hear trump tell bibi to "finish the job"? lapfog_1 Nov 13 #178

Too little too late. Fuck them. They will be example to others. n/t Greybnk48 Nov 13 #29

There will be no Gaza after Trump and Netenyahoo. aeromanKC Nov 13 #33

There is no more Gaza now, but whatever... AloeVera Nov 14 #242

There will be peace but Gaza will be gone. They were warned and choose to believe Trump. Srkdqltr Nov 13 #34

They get pleasure out of being lied to, bottom line. Clouds Passing Nov 13 #36

I am Jewish. nycbos Nov 13 #39

I don't blame you for feeling that way. yardwork Nov 13 #42

Yup nycbos Nov 13 #46

Are you sure atreides1 Nov 13 #54

Maybe Harris looked at her Jewish family... nycbos Nov 13 #66

I don't think that Trump will deport wealthy citizens who voted for him! yardwork Nov 13 #75

Well, in case you didn't know palinny Nov 13 #119

I know what Miller is saying. yardwork Nov 13 #127

Exactly LeftInTX Nov 13 #121

Arab Americans julmur Nov 13 #129

US citizens aren't going anywhere LeftInTX Nov 13 #98

The US Govt did deport citizens & locked up citizens in our past. irisblue Nov 13 #69

That was a long time ago. LeftInTX Nov 13 #110

History may not repeat exactly, but it echoes irisblue Nov 13 #117

We may be able to fix that. They have businesses to divest from and can hammer away at them TheKentuckian Nov 14 #236

Not all Arab-Americans are bad or thoughtless, I hope you know David Boyle Nov 13 #177

My daughter and I were not given any such consideration TheKentuckian Nov 14 #237

My sympathies David Boyle Nov 15 #271

And mine for what is coming down the tracks for you. TheKentuckian Nov 15 #274

Zero f**ks Blue for the win Nov 13 #40

Trump wasn't playing them. Rashida Tlaib started this nonsense. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 13 #41

All of this... orwell Nov 13 #43

Punishment Politics is indeed a slippery slope MagickMuffin Nov 13 #44

I don't want to hear any of that fuck shit the Hamas lovers are talking about. They hurt Dem chances so fuck 'em. SoFlaBro Nov 13 #45

They also hurt their own. How stupid. 33taw Nov 13 #50

Oh well bronxiteforever Nov 13 #47

They can chew on it... Blue_Tires Nov 13 #48

Well that didn't take long Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 13 #49

Duh, Just how dumb is the average voter? krawhitham Nov 13 #51

Half of the voters are even dumber Zambero Nov 13 #176

No seriously he was telling you all along. Hope22 Nov 13 #52

I thought Trump's position on the middle east conflict was pretty clear. patphil Nov 13 #56

Well, that contradicts the old saying about there being no cloudbase Nov 13 #57

you have to wonder just how fucking stupid they are Skittles Nov 13 #58

Sorry Abstractartist Nov 13 #59

FAFO award winners. SunSeeker Nov 13 #60

These idiots need to fuck all the way off! beaglelover Nov 13 #61

They fucked around - now we're all finding out. dchill Nov 13 #62

Abandon Biden/Harris: You got your wish. IzzaNuDay Nov 13 #64

Duh... MineralMan Nov 13 #67

Classic case of flying-skeleton Nov 13 #68

Add them to the list of people who can go fuck themselves Orrex Nov 13 #70

Google AI: LudwigPastorius Nov 13 #72

"First they came for .... " sarge43 Nov 13 #73

Yeah, well. Boo-fucking-hoo, and thanks for nothing. (nt) Paladin Nov 13 #76

Bunch of damn toddlers Dem4life1234 Nov 13 #78

Oh, and do the latinos who voted for Trump actually believe it is just illegal immigrants that Maggots don't like? 3Hotdogs Nov 13 #80

These idiots are fools to vote for trump and now they are getting what they deserved LetMyPeopleVote Nov 13 #81

TY for this... Dearborn Muslims Are Responsible Cha Nov 13 #128

The height of stupidity-MENA America! IzzaNuDay Nov 14 #213

It's a little bit late to figure out that you're being played. Crunchy Frog Nov 13 #82

Arabs voting for trump to ounish democrats is like Mountainguy Nov 13 #84

A single issue block of voters who fucked us all! ffr Nov 13 #85

... Happy Hoosier Nov 13 #86

These have to be the stupidest fucking MOFOS on the planet sdfernando Nov 13 #87

Some Americans are sleep walkers Beck23 Nov 13 #88

FAFO MustLoveBeagles Nov 13 #91

Sure, because his Muslim ban phylny Nov 13 #92

Many use us Dems and then fuck us kansasobama Nov 13 #93

My parents used to tell me to think first JPPaverage Nov 13 #94

PSGWSP LW1977 Nov 13 #95

Might be a good time to start looking for some very low priced houses in the area BamaRefugee Nov 13 #96

Womp womp... Center Left Nov 13 #99

No Fucking Shite, Sherlocks! We WARNED you!! Cha Nov 13 #100

Too bad... berksdem Nov 13 #101

fuck em moonshinegnomie Nov 13 #102

It's a heartache struggle4progress Nov 13 #103

My opinion is they want to live in a Caliphate wolfie001 Nov 13 #104

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire; jack boots ripping at my nose; I voted for Trump and the Nazi Empire . . . NBachers Nov 13 #105

They got taken for a ride Johnny2X2X Nov 13 #106

Wtf? Ysabel Nov 13 #108

All these Pro-Israel, pro-settlement Evangelicals pfitz59 Nov 13 #109

If one is truly against ethnic cleansing and genocide, Uncle Joe Nov 13 #112

I'd rather support my family. I don't have the resources to spare. thebigidea Nov 13 #124

Rubio can't give what he doesn't have, Uncle Joe Nov 13 #137

They can end their attacks, release the hostages, surrender, and beg for mercy at this point TheKentuckian Nov 13 #154

Who is they? The Palestinians in Gaza have no government, and almost half the population is under 17. Uncle Joe Nov 13 #160

I don't give a runny fuck. Good fucking riddance TheKentuckian Nov 14 #181

That sounds like *rump, Kushner and Netanyahu's position as well. Uncle Joe Nov 14 #185

What it sounds like is their order is on the way! TheKentuckian Nov 14 #187

No government is a lie. Hamas is their government. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #238

There has been no election in Gaza since George W. Bush was in power. Uncle Joe Nov 14 #244

Having a government doesn't require any elections. Look around the middle east for proof. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #249

The ultimate excuse is using the terrorist attack of October 7th Uncle Joe Nov 14 #252

Jimmy crack corn, sir. The order is on the way! TheKentuckian Nov 14 #254

They DO have a government Sundance1220 Nov 15 #266

The Palestinians in Gaza have no functioning government and their top leaders including the one Uncle Joe Nov 15 #268

They have the government they voted for Sundance1220 Nov 15 #269

Hamas is the terrorist organization that Israel enabled and funded to overlord the Palestinian people Uncle Joe Nov 15 #270

LOL - THEY WERE ELECTED Sundance1220 Nov 15 #272

So was George W. Bush, but China didn't keep him in power to dominate over us, Uncle Joe Nov 15 #273

Have they sent troops, money, weapons? Sundance1220 Nov 15 #275

One of the many things that have turned Sundance1220 Nov 15 #276

The cause is ANTI-ETHNIC CLEANSING and ANTI-GENOCIDE and what some people do on a micro-basis has been too easily Uncle Joe Nov 15 #277

And many feel they have been stabbed in the back Sundance1220 Nov 14 #204

There is no excuse or justification for genocide, period. It doesn't matter how anyone votes or doesn't vote, and Uncle Joe Nov 14 #222

Maybe Americans got sick of hearing Sundance1220 Nov 14 #224

Then you need to get rid of the 1st Amendment, and again there is no excuse/justification for genocide period. n/t Uncle Joe Nov 14 #225

There was no genocide Sundance1220 Nov 14 #229

It's taking place now, in broad daylight, you can cover your eyes and ears, but it's still happening. n/t Uncle Joe Nov 14 #234

Nope. It is suicide. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #239

Nope it's probable genocide and the vast Uncle Joe Nov 14 #253

All I have to say to them is.. Beck23 Nov 13 #120

Wait until ONCE again the same idiot MAGOTS start bitching about the ACA ending under Trump Bengus81 Nov 13 #122

Maybe you should have thought about that before you voted for him! tornado34jh Nov 13 #125

He didn't play you. You played yourself. In It to Win It Nov 13 #130

This was obvious to anyone paying attention. City Lights Nov 13 #134

Sow true Pmut Nov 13 #138

I feel sufficiently punished. And humbled. OilemFirchen Nov 13 #143

The Arsonists Blaming The Lack Of An Extinguisher ProfessorGAC Nov 13 #145

no shit, Sherlock. Conjuay Nov 13 #149

They are fine when they think Trump is going to go after other people sky_masterson Nov 13 #151

If It Wasn't Clear what Trump's Position Was... NavyDem Nov 13 #153

What Palestinians? Play time is over. TheKentuckian Nov 13 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Nov 13 #163

Can someone help me? GaYellowDawg Nov 13 #157

Any democrats MFM008 Nov 13 #165

Those voters are so smart at being stupid. LiberalFighter Nov 13 #166

We will ALL suffer for 4 long years due to the consequences of their actions vapor2 Nov 13 #168

Wow thanks saw that coming a mile away Tribetime Nov 13 #169

care to single out any other groups to blame for Trump? eShirl Nov 13 #170

it's almost like falling for and supporting obvious Russian intelligence campaigns on social media is a BAD idea....... Takket Nov 13 #171

How do these dumb a$$e$ have the brain power to breath? TomSlick Nov 13 #172

Aww that's a shame Blue Owl Nov 13 #174

Post removed Post removed Nov 13 #175

They actually thought a Christian white supremacist panderer gave a F about them? Freethinker65 Nov 14 #179

Who Cares? MrWowWow Nov 14 #180

Dysfunction junction Sugarcoated Nov 14 #182

Who 's getting punished ? The Fools in Dearborn Bread and Circuses Nov 14 #188

They aren't going to protest Agolf, they were in it to go after Democrats and particularly black people. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #240

y'all should check out Leopardsatemyface on reddit if you want some good schadenfreude. nt Javaman Nov 14 #189

My message to them is: "ENJOY TRUMP!" --- The same taunt they shouted at Democrats. Oopsie Daisy Nov 14 #190

"Finding Out" is no fun, huh? SKKY Nov 14 #192

I can't help but wonder how the Palestinians Sundance1220 Nov 14 #193

I don't think Palestinians in Gaza feel very "cared for". AloeVera Nov 14 #197

So you think those people Sundance1220 Nov 14 #199

As you seem to care so much abt Gazans suffering.. AloeVera Nov 14 #250

There is no genocide Sundance1220 Nov 15 #256

Of course there is. AloeVera Nov 15 #257

Their leaders, hamas, Sundance1220 Nov 15 #258

You are talking the most stupicidal, spiteful, genocidal people in history here TheKentuckian Nov 14 #241

That's pretty dark Sundance1220 Nov 14 #248

The only word I can think of is STUPID. Emile Nov 14 #195

Muslim Members Of Congress OhioTim Nov 14 #196

But only Muslim ones? Were shunning now? Ilikepurple Nov 14 #228

Lay in the bed you made Blue for the win Nov 14 #200

No shit Sherlock. BradBo Nov 14 #216

That's just a sliver of what Stinky Trumpy Farmer-Rick Nov 14 #217

You voted for him ....now deal with it. n/t iluvtennis Nov 14 #219

DID THEY NOT LISTEN TO TRUMP? Jimvanhise Nov 14 #220

I don't care start fucking packing/ Historic NY Nov 14 #221

Have a friend who was like that with RFK jr. Old Crank Nov 14 #223

Your sympathy for Gaza was not very deep then, perhaps. AloeVera Nov 14 #231

They can fill in where hundreds of thousands of Jews once lived in Arab lands before they were ethnically cleansed. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #243

Rec'd for display of mask-off. AloeVera Nov 14 #245

Oh noes! TheKentuckian Nov 14 #246

Deleted double post TheKentuckian Nov 14 #247

I have no sympathy for fucking idiots Zorro Nov 14 #232

"fuck your feelings" dsp3000 Nov 14 #233

These idiots voted for and supported trump and it is sad seeing them ask President Biden to save them LetMyPeopleVote Nov 14 #251

F... around Rebl2 Nov 14 #255

Looking in my fields for fucks to give. Asa13 Nov 15 #259

No shit, Sherlock! kentuck Nov 15 #264

They can go straight to hell. Deport them I don't care. we can do it Nov 15 #265

Several white friends of mine did this LeftInTX Nov 15 #281

Witnessing Karma LetMyPeopleVote Nov 16 #282