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MadameButterfly

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33. Trump is planning to replace military generals

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:50 AM

Nov 14

wiht "loyal" leadership at the outset. No more Marc Millies.

I have wondered how a consciencious soldier would respond to orders to arrest or kill law-abiding citizens for the crime of freedom of speech. Attacking Americans will not appeal to a lot of soldiers. But some percentage will be MAGAs, maybe the majority. So a soldier refusing to obey such orders cannot count on solidarity in the ranks. It puts them at high risk. I wonder if anyone would take the risk. The military is not designed for soldiers to make individual decisions about which orders to obey.

Any rebellion among the military would have to have leadership, and the leadership we are looking for will have been removed by Trump.

I look to the National Guard, where I assume Trump doesn't have the reach to appoint the leadership in every. state. I also assume the National Guard doesn't have as many resources as the military. They will be half MAGA, perhaps, more or less depending on the state. But they won't be likely to have MAGA leadership at least in Blue states.

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My wife's warning to America [View all] Pototan Nov 13 OP

We're pretty much already at the hard to undo MadameButterfly Nov 13 #1

That's not the point of her warning Pototan Nov 13 #2

The use of a trigger event is a common tactic of dictators. wnylib Nov 13 #16

Given that if Trump wants martial law MadameButterfly Nov 14 #30

I have wondered about that, too. wnylib Nov 14 #44

The people *were* forewarned krkaufman Nov 14 #39

Maybe a Reichstag fire. moondust Nov 13 #3

I'm thinking another "assassination attempt"... Blue_Tires Nov 13 #7

Fake assassination attempts ? MuirWoods Nov 14 #46

Normally I'd agree Blue_Tires Nov 14 #47

Something similar is likely. wnylib Nov 13 #20

Ummm... moondust Nov 13 #22

True that military coups usually occur in 3rd world countries. wnylib Nov 13 #23

Trump is planning to replace military generals MadameButterfly Nov 14 #33

I live in a blue state, NY. wnylib Nov 14 #41

His replacement of generals will weaken our military. louis-t Nov 14 #52

I didn'dt know about VPNs but I agree MadameButterfly Nov 14 #34

A trigger event can be anything Trump wants it to be... Dan Nov 13 #4

I don't know about that Pototan Nov 13 #6

Smiling, Dan Nov 13 #19

We'll need reporters to do investigations MadameButterfly Nov 14 #35

The big if is whether we can keep him out MadameButterfly Nov 14 #36

KnR. n/t iluvtennis Nov 13 #5

Like described in Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" rubbersole Nov 13 #8

Bingo! nt LittleGirl Nov 13 #12

I think this would "trigger" another event. hootman Nov 13 #9

is this some top secret you are keeping to yourself? nt MadameButterfly Nov 14 #37

Not at all. Just imagine the worst thing that could happen to him hootman Nov 14 #38

The Base won't stand for the 25th MadameButterfly Nov 14 #55

I expect trump to degenerate a lot in the next 2 yrs hootman Nov 14 #56

The United STATES is a large, multiethnic country. roamer65 Nov 13 #10

Thanks for the warning. LittleGirl Nov 13 #11

I just thought it was important Pototan Nov 13 #14

It's appreciated. nt LittleGirl Nov 13 #15

Marcos ms.pamela Nov 13 #13

Please thank your wife for me, and thank you for conveying her warning and her lived experience. chia Nov 13 #17

She's the smartest person I know Pototan Nov 14 #25

"Once Martial law is declared and implemented, it is very difficult to undo-" misanthrope Nov 13 #18

Claus Von Stauffenburg comes to mind...... NT hootman Nov 14 #40

That's just how Hitler did it too. Kablooie Nov 13 #21

Chump has said he'll be a dictator on day one. Hassler Nov 14 #24

The real question is whether American soldiers will fire on its citizens NNadir Nov 14 #26

They have before. yardwork Nov 14 #28

That is no longer a question for me. DesertRain Nov 14 #32

People are going to be murdered, gab13by13 Nov 14 #27

He already said he was going to do this on day one. Bluethroughu Nov 14 #29

Sounds like scare mongering BS to me. Blues Heron Nov 14 #31

There was a book called something like 'The Rise and Fall....' Dan Nov 14 #42

yeah I once watched a great movie - it was awesome Blues Heron Nov 14 #43

One of my concerns is that dump will try to usurp office before inauguration day. Clouds Passing Nov 14 #45

Also martial law basicaly suspends the courts moniss Nov 14 #48

Dictators grandpamike1 Nov 14 #49

As soon as martial law happens our country will wake up oldmanlynn Nov 14 #50

One possibility is Trump's own assassination by his own people CanonRay Nov 14 #51

It's only just begun. spanone Nov 14 #53

This is not news if you know any history at all Betty Boom Nov 14 #54

I certainly know my history Pototan Nov 17 #57

My mother was a nurse in the Army Blue_Roses Nov 17 #58

Thanks for sharing. Emile Nov 17 #59