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28. Or maybe women are sick of patronizing men telling them not to worry about toxic masculinity and the patriarchy

Reply to PeaceWave (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 15, 2024, 03:55 PM

Nov 2024

But go ahead and blame Russia and don't look at the things being said in this thread.

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We Asked Young Men Why They Voted for Donald Trump--Here's What They Said [View all] Nevilledog Nov 2024 OP

I fucking figured all of that "patriarchy" talk along with "toxic masculinity" would start to turn off young, white men. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #1

Young white men wanted to be "turned off". It's rationalization for bad behavior. Walleye Nov 2024 #3

I said it multiple times here - only to be told I was wrong. PeaceWave Nov 2024 #5

You are wrong Cirsium Nov 2024 #31

Right up there with Christians being persecuted TexasBushwhacker Nov 2024 #33

Exactly Cirsium Nov 2024 #40

Not out of date at all - it is alive and strong in Texas TBF Nov 2024 #105

Exactly. The only thing this proves Diraven Nov 2024 #55

It was in place LONG before the "right-wing media." valleyrogue Nov 2024 #67

WTF? Cirsium Nov 2024 #114

For fuck's sake... Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #62

And I've got something else to say... Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #97

This needed to be said. I hope we listen. Ilikepurple Nov 2024 #112

Exactly right Cirsium Nov 2024 #115

Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #125

If the shoe fits... AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #6

If they are offended by "patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" they need to ask themselves why. Coventina Nov 2024 #8

My white husband and three Bettie Nov 2024 #20

And they wonder why we choose the bear NT AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #24

Based on the division it created in our own party, I wonder if that bear was Russian. PeaceWave Nov 2024 #25

Or maybe women are sick of patronizing men telling them not to worry about toxic masculinity and the patriarchy AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #28

Exactly... I'm. A white man... Happy Hoosier Nov 2024 #132

Neither is mine. Neither is my son. Neither are my sons in law. CTyankee Nov 2024 #135

If conservative white boys are invited in, who do we kick out? Duncan Grant Nov 2024 #30

It seems that what they actually want Bettie Nov 2024 #78

I know these types Ndp5 Nov 2024 #80

Young women are certainly turned off by the patriarchy and the toxic masculinity of Republicans. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #46

So to coin one of their favorite catchphrases Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #61

The truth is a turnoff. I quit caring about them a long time ago. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #68

Based on most of the replies in this thread, Democrats still don't get it. Ex Lurker Nov 2024 #71

Thank you! I am 100% for trans rights and inclusion. But I know that I fucking can't convince a Rogan listener leading SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #82

Bingo. Nothing is accomplished by starting with "Most white men are toxic, dangerous and murderers." PeaceWave Nov 2024 #87

Statistically speaking angrychair Nov 2024 #113

And lost 2 elections to a burgeoning autocrat SDANation Nov 2024 #122

We got 73 million votes (and still counting) angrychair Nov 2024 #123

We DO "get it." People like you do not. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #100

Harris was proposing to lift everybody up. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #128

Oh really. ismnotwasm Nov 2024 #92

I'm sorry, but he sounds like an ignorant dick to me Walleye Nov 2024 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Nov 2024 #9

Irony was certainly lost on him. nt RandomNumbers Nov 2024 #73

Proving yet again, you can't fix stupid. CanonRay Nov 2024 #4

It is self sabotage to demonize the single biggest voting block. We're supposed to be inclusive. PeaceWave Nov 2024 #7

I'm sorry but I'm not going to include people who want to hurt and or kill people. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #11

Not all young white men "want to hurt and or kill people." PeaceWave Nov 2024 #12

Yes I know. I gave birth to two of them and am married to another. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #15

You're wrong. "The overwhelming majority of young white men do NOT hurt and kill people." PeaceWave Nov 2024 #17

Data is your friend. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #53

How about you show us the data - since it's not everyone else's responsibility to fact check you... PeaceWave Nov 2024 #57

Your last post on this site was 15 minutes ago, i.e you've had a chance to respond with Abolishinist Nov 2024 #126

The overwhelming number of them don't care one way or another. haele Nov 2024 #120

Really? Zeitghost Nov 2024 #49

No, it isn't our "messaging." Why is this still being repeated? valleyrogue Nov 2024 #70

"Not All Men" AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #21

They aren't the largest voting bloc. White women are. Nt spooky3 Nov 2024 #18

We've tried to include them and they rejected us Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #58

You have to be kidding. Seriously. They can't be fixed. n/t valleyrogue Nov 2024 #69

From what I'm seeing, your suggestion is that we Bettie Nov 2024 #79

Anyone mention snowybirdie Nov 2024 #10

So, he voted for a convicted felon who will break up immigrant families, take away reproductive rights of women, Yavin4 Nov 2024 #13

"Not their issue"? I can hear the whinging when the Phoenix61 Nov 2024 #14

Sigh. Now the "lesson" Democrats will likely take from this is Bettie Nov 2024 #16

If you vote for a known rapist Johonny Nov 2024 #19

Sounds like a guy who can't wait to pay 18 years of child support after a one night stand. Vinca Nov 2024 #22

No wonder that these losers can't find a woman, Squaredeal Nov 2024 #23

They need Jordan Peterson to tell them to take a shower and clean their room AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #27

I am so fucking tired of men taking everything said about men as a personal affront to themselves. intheflow Nov 2024 #26

If you say it like that, it's offensive to me. This is a forum of Democrats. When you say, "FFS, grow the fuck up, Men!" Doodley Nov 2024 #60

Men who jump on women posting in liberal forum intheflow Nov 2024 #64

Why are you so aggressive towards me? Doodley Nov 2024 #103

Why are you making this about you? intheflow Nov 2024 #129

Bye. Doodley Nov 2024 #134

I'm shocked by what I'm reading here soandso Nov 2024 #89

Thank you. I'm a white man. Should I be ashamed? I'm a poet, a vegetarian, a Democrat, a humble soul. I took care of Doodley Nov 2024 #98

I'm a vegetarian, too soandso Nov 2024 #107

We can be in the Veg Squad! I will remember your name and your kindness and look out for you on the DU highways. Doodley Nov 2024 #116

Aww, thanks! soandso Nov 2024 #118

It isn't intense man hating. intheflow Nov 2024 #130

Perhaps so many young men has been bypassed in recent years being that the IT revolution bypassed a lot of them, SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #29

Will your response be similarly dismissive when AI "bypasses" millions over the next decade? PeaceWave Nov 2024 #32

Yes, but the thing I didn't add the first time was that millions of new jobs were created back then, and will be when SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #34

I think, as do many others, that AI is going to be seismic, resulting in massive job losses... PeaceWave Nov 2024 #35

I think a overreaction. People really don't know at this point what AI truly is yet. The tech is so new, that even IT, SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #47

I'm close to retirement in an unrelated field. My primary concern is for the next generation. PeaceWave Nov 2024 #48

Perhaps congrats on retiring soon! The next generation hopefully is looking forward to this whole new field, SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #51

AI is cancer Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #59

Fuck nic spanone Nov 2024 #36

Did it ever occur to Nic that women in general are assumed to be inherently bad people because of our gender. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #37

Where are you getting that? soandso Nov 2024 #93

Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #99

So you can't address what you said? soandso Nov 2024 #102

I could address you, Quiet Em Nov 2024 #110

Your choice soandso Nov 2024 #111

Wild statement? Quiet Em Nov 2024 #119

My "type"? soandso Nov 2024 #124

What is he talking about? I never heard Kamala talk about white males being the problem. ellemb Nov 2024 #38

Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate told him she did though! AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #44

He sounds like a 21 year old boy striving to be a REAL man by conforming to the mythology. Ping Tung Nov 2024 #39

So basically he kacekwl Nov 2024 #41

Whining bitches with not enough education or sense to make living wages JT45242 Nov 2024 #42

Well, I can only say that if Trump Dan Nov 2024 #43

Maybe not women radical noodle Nov 2024 #85

I suspect that his view Dan Nov 2024 #86

They'll need cannon fodder radical noodle Nov 2024 #94

Oh you poor little snowflakes! Did your feelings get hurt? yardwork Nov 2024 #45

They may not be bad people liberalmediaaddict Nov 2024 #50

he can ride out on the same god damn horse Anza404 Nov 2024 #52

Try getting a date when you are homeless peregrinus Nov 2024 #54

Idiocracy wasn't supposed to be a documentary. n/t flvegan Nov 2024 #56

Yeah, OK. Solly Mack Nov 2024 #63

Okay, the "Not all FITB are FITB " argument, weak... haele Nov 2024 #65

Aggrieved white males afraid of losing a tiny bit of their privilege. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #66

Alot of these young men today Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #72

Dear young men who voted for TFG, don't get fucked. raccoon Nov 2024 #74

I will admit it Bettie Nov 2024 #75

Good luck with them Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #76

I can't tolerate four more years of "understanding" morons and bigots. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #77

Which came first Progressive dog Nov 2024 #81

Poor, poor white men. choie Nov 2024 #83

Na you're just a salty little incel vercetti2021 Nov 2024 #84

Bravo. You win the prize for least promising attempt at voter outreach. Yeesh. PeaceWave Nov 2024 #88

As a trans person I don't give a rats ass anymore vercetti2021 Nov 2024 #90

My Voter outreach. Dudes! You white right? Cool. Ilikepurple Nov 2024 #101

Asshole. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #91

If ANYONE, male or female, tells me they "resonate" with Trump in any way, they are DEAD to me instantly! CTyankee Nov 2024 #95

sonny boy needs to Kali Nov 2024 #96

TLDR version "I'm very stupid and don't understand what anyone is saying or RockRaven Nov 2024 #104

"Those guys are still out there and they're not going away." J_William_Ryan Nov 2024 #106

No "real man" would vote for Trump--- Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #108

Trump appealed to his base Docreed2003 Nov 2024 #109

All that aside, any Trump voter can kiss my ass!!! oasis Nov 2024 #117

Who is hurting these boy's feelings anyway? Klarkashton Nov 2024 #121

Well he seems inherently non-critical thinking and easy to exploit and manipulate. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #127

I'm guessing probably reasons were complicated pinkstarburst Nov 2024 #131

This will probably get me flamed Asa13 Nov 2024 #133