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creeksneakers2

(7,611 posts) Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:03 PM Nov 20

Please don't spread Spoonamore hoax [View all]

I usually debunk right wing frauds but this time I want to debunk a left wing one, the latest nonsense from some guy named Steven Spoonamore that the 2024 election was hacked and stolen. His claims have gone viral, including a link to something called " Duty to Warn Letter - to VP Harris - Re: Election 2024."
I take pride in the fact that my side engages in far fewer kook conspiracy theories and accepts the will of the people without trying Fascist coup attempts. And I love to point fingers at righties for doing those things and don't want next time to end up with them pointing fingers back and saying: "Your guys do it too." Spreading misinformation would hurt our side.

My debunking is at this link: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/20/2287695/-Election-fraud-hoax-by-the-left?_=2024-11-20T19:59:39.000-08:00

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Please don't spread Spoonamore hoax [View all] creeksneakers2 Nov 20 OP

easy to see why people are so susceptible to such claims Skittles Nov 20 #1

Yes. A great many people choose what they believe by creeksneakers2 Nov 20 #2

repukes are easily manipulated Skittles Nov 20 #4

And... wryter2000 Nov 20 #5

Not that easy to inquire creeksneakers2 Nov 20 #7

problem is, none of it would make any difference Skittles Nov 20 #8

Absolutely! And lies work! creeksneakers2 Nov 20 #10

Considering the Pennsylvania senator vote was jimfields33 Nov 27 #126

He's attacking Harris now Sympthsical Nov 20 #3

This happened in Florida Miami Blue Nov 20 #6

Yep. Lots of voter suppression going on creeksneakers2 Nov 20 #9

+1. Voter suppression is the real issue, radius777 Nov 21 #17

Exactly! creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #18

It was actually the PA Supreme Court SickOfTheOnePct Nov 21 #74

You can count the ballots eleventy trillion times and TheKentuckian Nov 21 #82

I'll believe Spoon when Biden, Harris, etc., say vote result appear bogus. Silent Type Nov 20 #11

I'll believe that if they have evidence. creeksneakers2 Nov 20 #12

How could our side MFM008 Nov 20 #13

By having the media doubt our future claims creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #15

Yes, by all means, let's take republicon's word for everything. FoxNewsSucks Nov 21 #14

I'd be glad to look at any evidence you have. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #16

I'm taking the words of Democrats here. carpetbagger Nov 21 #24

Who is taking the Republicans word for anything? TheKentuckian Nov 23 #89

I'm not taking Republican word for anything creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #98

Computer security expert not just some guy. Blue Full Moon Nov 21 #19

No reason to recognize the credentials creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #20

I'm not sure he's an actual computer security expert -- he calls himself a "computer security expert." LauraInLA Nov 21 #22

there's thousands of those in this country stopdiggin Nov 21 #29

See post #25...there are more of them questionseverything Nov 21 #39

not really. did read the post. stopdiggin Nov 21 #44

That has no evidence anything happened. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #55

I don't know what to think anymore Mountain Mule Nov 21 #21

Sorry but your critique of Spoonamore has as many holes as his letter. garybeck Nov 21 #23

Fewer old machines around. But Spoonamore claims a complete count. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #50

Spoonamore isn't the only computer expert calling for a recount. There is also the group of computer security experts pnwmom Nov 21 #25

Yes thank you. This article calling spoon a hoax is not objective. garybeck Nov 21 #26

What makes you say that? creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #28

see my post, i think it is #23, but to answer your questions garybeck Nov 21 #46

That doesn't cover the bullet ballot lie creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #49

no. no. no. garybeck Nov 21 #51

The "bullet ballot" stuff is definitely a lie creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #53

He didn't necessarily lie questionseverything Nov 21 #77

Not sure what you are talking about creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #95

The early results could of shown that difference and then as more results were included the difference disappeared questionseverything Nov 25 #104

Doesn't matter when the votes arrived creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #110

I don't think you are paying attention to what I'm saying creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #94

Ask the Chinese and the nsa, every freaking back door is an opening questionseverything Nov 25 #105

Even if you are Chines or NSA creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #109

Ok you are goofing now, talking physical back doors lol questionseverything Nov 26 #114

Nobody knows how many votes there are until its over. creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #115

Improper? osteopath6 Nov 25 #107

Thank you for this! Mountain Mule Nov 21 #27

Please don't blame them. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #32

I was quite worried about this creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #31

All the evidence you need is that the breaches did occur. They had the opportunity. And the remedy is simple. pnwmom Nov 21 #34

Thank You DET Nov 21 #35

They spent 4 years training us to defend the 2020 election, then all elections -- even though pnwmom Nov 21 #36

If its obvious creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #58

They would have to find a way get the soltware into the machines. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #54

The breaches prove they could have found a way to reprogram. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #57

The breaches themselves show they had the opportunity to reprogram. nt pnwmom Nov 21 #62

They also show they got caught creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #64

So? pnwmom Nov 21 #65

So? creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #68

I'm not saying the election WAS fixed. I'm saying there's enough evidence to show it COULD HAVE BEEN FIXED. pnwmom Nov 21 #73

Eight machines would not have been enough to fix the election. creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #96

With the information gained in the breaches, they could have gone on to hack many more machines pnwmom Nov 25 #103

But you would have to break in to the others. Not easy. creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #111

You don't know that. That's the point. It's very possible that the information gained in the breaches pnwmom Nov 26 #112

If you don't have physical access creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #117

That's what they were saying BEFORE the breaches were discovered in 2022. nt pnwmom Nov 26 #119

Partial hand recount sounds like a GREAT idea! ElementaryPenguin Nov 21 #72

There are more than this Blue Full Moon Nov 21 #30

I've seen demonstations of machines being hacked in minutes creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #33

They don't need physical access to the machines on the day of the election. They could have tampered with pnwmom Nov 21 #37

yes. but even moreso, it's the memory cards. they are removed and repgrogrammed every election. n/t garybeck Nov 21 #47

By people with physical access. creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #63

Yes by insiders either from the machine company or the election office questionseverything Nov 21 #76

Not that easy because the machines are tested over and over. creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #97

Post # 51 questionseverything Nov 25 #106

We did cover this before, but I still disagree creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #108

Every thing you said after the second sentence was incorrect, you are mixing me up with some one else questionseverything Nov 26 #113

You referred me to post 51 creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #118

You assume a lot about a lot of things questionseverything Nov 26 #120

They could not have coded months before creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #59

What makes you think that? nt pnwmom Nov 21 #61

Because recoding requires access creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #67

I really wish you knew what you were talking about nbsmom Nov 21 #84

They are not supposed to be connected. creeksneakers2 Nov 22 #85

I don't care what kind of machine it is creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #99

In this day of technology Blue_Roses Nov 21 #38

I think it's interesting that the state of WA, which has only mail in ballots, kept under lock, pnwmom Nov 21 #48

Interesting creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #70

I think if its going to be alleged there needs to be some evidence creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #60

That's a given... Blue_Roses Nov 21 #83

I kind of doubt it creeksneakers2 Nov 22 #86

With all due respect, Blue_Roses Nov 25 #92

Ask you daughter creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #93

Why don't you ask the Chinese hackers who have infiltrated questionseverything Nov 26 #121

The NSA computers were networked. creeksneakers2 Nov 26 #122

So are the report pages of every sos in the country questionseverything Nov 26 #123

The report pages are not linked to the machines. creeksneakers2 Nov 27 #124

You pretending you don't understand how a rig could be accomplished doesn't mean you are correct questionseverything Nov 27 #125

I can't find it. What is her name? creeksneakers2 Nov 28 #127

I just can't understand how Trump won North Carolina JanMichael Nov 21 #40

Vote spitting is common in NC Abnredleg Nov 21 #41

I'm aware of that thank you. This wasn't a normal election. JanMichael Nov 21 #42

But yet the results are typical for NC Abnredleg Nov 21 #43

There's more ScratchCat Nov 21 #66

I'd be all for a movement to have that every time creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #71

It's illegal to hand count ballots in Florida questionseverything Nov 22 #87

Please summarize your debunking in the OP. RandomNumbers Nov 21 #45

i read his article garybeck Nov 21 #52

His magic bullet ballot thing was definitely a lie, that's not in dispute. tritsofme Nov 21 #56

Its very appropriate creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #100

I had to use a link creeksneakers2 Nov 21 #69

Spoonamore is a republican. DiamondShark Nov 21 #75

Wondering why someone who's been on DU since 2003 has no recollection of the crap GOP has been pulling since HAVA nbsmom Nov 21 #78

The last thing election deniers care about is democracy iemanja Nov 21 #80

I'm all for fighting. I'm opposed to flailing. TheKentuckian Nov 23 #90

Yes, If Trump lost he would say it was fixed creeksneakers2 Nov 25 #101

I gave the reasons its a hoax creeksneakers2 Nov 24 #91

Sadly, our side doesn't engage in less iemanja Nov 21 #79

that's what you call a "hoax"? stillcool Nov 21 #81

Just playing with syllables here- marybourg Nov 23 #88

Thank you osteopath6 Nov 25 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 26 #116