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iemanja

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89. There isn't a trans undocumented prisoner issue

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:22 AM

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There is no one in that situation. You’re letting the GOP frame the issue for you.

I see your point about AOC’s focusing on Cisgender women. That was my thought as well, which is why I said I didn’t think it was ideal.

The Democratic Party’s messaging in all areas needs work, whereas there was no messaging or even just a response on trans issues. Why are you so protective of ineffective silence?

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What Democrats Are Getting Wrong About Transgender Rights [View all] Coventina Friday OP

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oh so people who are stronger and faster are the problem? I thought that was the point of sports WhiskeyGrinder Friday #4

By your logic we should just eliminate women's sports entirely. Llewlladdwr Friday #8

That's what some people keep implying! WhiskeyGrinder Friday #9

The same reason men still don't get a say about abortion. Llewlladdwr Friday #10

Men get quite a large say about abortion, actually. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #12

They can? Polybius Saturday #75

Some trans men can get pregnant and some trans men get abortions. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #88

THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #83

But is this a real issue facing America or the world? newdeal2 Friday #5

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Individual "women born women" (people give birth to women?) differ "biologically" from each other as well. So? WhiskeyGrinder Friday #14

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they care more about trans gals in sports Skittles Friday #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Friday #11

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It wouldn't be the first Sundance1220 Friday #22

Wow SocialDemocrat61 Friday #41

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Better access to care to support transitioning actually helps this problem better than banning it. meadowlander Friday #6

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how about we distance ourselves from taxpayer funded senseless wars Skittles Friday #29

Serious question EnergizedLib Friday #31

when a country is attacked or invaded, they have the right to strike back Skittles Friday #33

Gender affirming care is medically necessary!!!! BootOutTheGoons Friday #36

100%... how do people not see this?! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #85

There are no doctors anywhere that perform gender affirming surgery on minors. meadowlander Friday #32

Thank you for this information LearnedHand Friday #37

That is not true - gender affirming surgeries are performed on minors HereForTheParty Friday #61

And some people get abortions in Week 40 - meadowlander Friday #62

"There are no doctors anywhere that perform gender affirming surgery on minors." HereForTheParty Friday #63

Fine. meadowlander Friday #64

can't they just get it done at school?????!!!!!!?????? Meadowoak Saturday #76

THIS! Texasgal Sunday #98

Can you provide a source for this information? Iris Sunday #94

The vast, vast majority of these surgeries are performed on cis teens. They're chest/breast reductions. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #67

Any surgery on any minor requires the consent of parents or legal guardians already . . . markpkessinger Friday #39

Like abortion? nt kelly1mm Friday #56

Okay, so you've named the ONE legal exception regarding consent to surgery for minors . . . markpkessinger Friday #66

Abortion isn't surgery and in some states minors are required to get parental consent. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #68

Apparently not proactively taking a runny dump all over TheKentuckian Friday #20

Trump campaigned on it iemanja Friday #45

Yes exboyfil Saturday #73

This negates what I said how exactly? TheKentuckian Saturday #91

You seem to assume talking about the iemanja Saturday #92

An excellent post equating trans rights to reproductive rights devolves into a RW-framed shouting match?? LearnedHand Friday #24

notice they did not respond to me Skittles Friday #25

I noticed that! LearnedHand Friday #26

agreed Skittles Friday #27

This has been DU every day since the election BootOutTheGoons Friday #28

seeing so-called progressives fall for such blatant rightwing trash is very disturbing indeed Skittles Friday #30

I'm convinced they want to fall for it BootOutTheGoons Friday #38

propaganda works on a lot of people Skittles Friday #46

Yes it does BootOutTheGoons Friday #48

You're right, and it's ugly LearnedHand Friday #40

It's not the fault of transpeople iemanja Friday #42

It's been implied here regularly since the election BootOutTheGoons Friday #43

That is not the same as blaming transpeople iemanja Friday #44

Tell that to the trans people here who feel like they're being blamed BootOutTheGoons Friday #47

Are you prepared to allow the GOP remain in power permanetly iemanja Friday #49

Say what? BootOutTheGoons Friday #50

NO, it's the fault of the party iemanja Friday #51

I never said it was the fault of the party BootOutTheGoons Friday #53

I said it's the fault of the party iemanja Friday #57

AOC is showing why she's the new generation of progressive Democratic leaders we need to lead us forward. InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #79

I think the idea was to ignore it hoping that the messaging would fall flat for some demographics Ilikepurple Friday #55

He spent half of his ad budget in those states on those ads for a reason iemanja Friday #59

Since you're going to live on this hill so what is the message you want? Ilikepurple Friday #65

Indeed, the GOP controlled the messaging on many if not all issues iemanja Friday #69

Here is how AOC addressed Nancy Mace's bullshit iemanja Friday #71

AOC nails it... as usual!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #80

I think this is a good response, but how does that apply to the trans immigrant prisoner issue? Ilikepurple Saturday #86

There isn't a trans undocumented prisoner issue iemanja Saturday #89

You are the one that said it was an issue that the Democratic Party must face, I agree Ilikepurple Saturday #90

Why are you fixated on a problem that doesn't exist? iemanja Saturday #93

I'm not fixated on a problem that doesn't exist, but rights that may exist whether exercised or not Ilikepurple Sunday #95

I just found out iemanja Sunday #96

Even though we have been disagreeing somewhat, I've enjoyed our exchange. Ilikepurple Sunday #97

Likewise iemanja Sunday #99

I stands with trans... to blame them is disgraceful!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #78

I suspect Harris's campaign likely thought a response would only make it worse karynnj Sunday #100

For me it's the dismissive way this is often framed as "Kamala lost because of "the trans thing"." meadowlander Friday #52

taxpayers don't fund fertility treatments, abortion, or even obesity, from what I am aware iemanja Friday #54

Military personnel can access Ozempic, gastric bypass surgery, Viagra, and some fertility treaments. meadowlander Friday #60

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You got that right LearnedHand Friday #35

lol WOW this thread WhiskeyGrinder Friday #58

This may be a DU record for Post Removed underpants Saturday #84

A divisive issue, to be sure. Patton French Saturday #87

What in the name of Godzilla happened?!?!?!?!?! Coventina Friday #70

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"Trans voice that will not be silenced." JoseBalow Saturday #77

I'm with YOU!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #82

This saddens me. InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #81

Wow Polybius Sunday #101

This basically just talks about how Republicans have been controlling the narrative oldmanlynn Sunday #102