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Prairie Gates

(3,570 posts)
12. Biden could wrap a Trump pardon with a tranche of other pardons
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:00 AM
Dec 4

For example, he can say "We have to move on from these issues. So, I am issuing a pardon for

1) Trump
2) Jack Smith and his entire staff, as well as any federal officer involved in any of his investigations
3) All members of the January 6 Committee and their entire staffs, and any witnesses who testified before the committee
4) All non-violent January 6 defendants not convicted of sedition or conspiracy or insurrection (he should consider reducing some of the sentences for non-violent ones, however)
5) Any federal officer involved in January 6 investigations or prosecutions
6) Any officer of any state or local court who has been involved in Trump investigations, election interference investigations, etc.

This would put Trump in a position where he would have to issue pardons to VIOLENT January 6 offenders, as well as those convicted of sedition, seditious conspiracy, or insurrection. It would also significantly limit the revenge prosecutions that are in the offing.

Biden should also continue to follow up with large numbers of pardons for those caught up in the drug war. Not everybody, of course (you don't want to release El Chapo), but large numbers of the otherwise decent citizens who got gaffled up by the draconian enforcement and sentencing mechanisms for which Biden himself was partly responsible.

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A case for Biden pardoning Trump [View all] thesquanderer Dec 4 OP
No way. The damage it would do to the Democratic base would take decades to recover from. yourout Dec 4 #1
Decades? How about a century? IzzaNuDay Dec 4 #61
No pardon ever !!!!!! No no no no no..... #LockUpTrump Trueblue1968 Dec 5 #63
No. Machin is stupid for even suggesting it. Fuck that. Autumn Dec 4 #2
Nothing justifies Biden pardoning Trump, displacedvermoter Dec 4 #3
No snowybirdie Dec 4 #4
Rep. Crockett claudette Dec 4 #13
Not buying a pardon 303squadron Dec 4 #5
You're absolutely right. At least we have Jack Smith yorkster Dec 4 #24
re: "Jack Smith's cases can be reopened." thesquanderer Dec 4 #42
Joyce Vance would disagree 303squadron Dec 4 #58
Can you elaborate? Or point to a link? thesquanderer Dec 4 #60
Only positive I see is it would embarrass Trump. Callie1979 Dec 4 #6
No. (nt) Paladin Dec 4 #7
Nope. Just nope. Tommy Carcetti Dec 4 #8
Absolutely NOT claudette Dec 4 #9
Yes he belongs in prison. But he's not going to end up in federal prison whether Biden pardons him or not, thesquanderer Dec 4 #43
Prosecuting yes, pardoning no. Johonny Dec 4 #10
Just FTS! MineralMan Dec 4 #11
What does FTS mean? n/t thesquanderer Dec 4 #44
I'll take a guess at "Fuck This Shit!" (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 4 #49
The T is for "that" MineralMan Dec 4 #51
Biden could wrap a Trump pardon with a tranche of other pardons Prairie Gates Dec 4 #12
Basically pardoning him after he's escaped justice HereForTheParty Dec 4 #14
No. Biden repeating Ford's mistake should not be on the table. nt Gore1FL Dec 4 #15
MAGA will see a pardon as proof that Trump never did anything wrong Ohioboy Dec 4 #16
I think they will believe the same, whether pardoned or not. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 4 #45
🗑 dweller Dec 4 #17
Worst possible move we could make. Trump and his flying monkeys will be travelingthrulife Dec 4 #18
That will be the day that I stop supporting Dems the_liberal_grandpa Dec 4 #19
It would make the narrative of his crimes being a Democratic witch hunt pretty hard to sustain ColinC Dec 4 #20
For the good of the country bucolic_frolic Dec 4 #21
re: "If you're going to give something, get something." thesquanderer Dec 4 #46
It could be written crud Dec 4 #22
Manchin was always Republican lite LW1977 Dec 4 #23
lite? Think. Again. Dec 4 #55
... Celerity Dec 4 #57
wow, I've never seen those! Think. Again. Dec 4 #59
There is no case for pardoning him. sinkingfeeling Dec 4 #25
No. NO. NO Charging Triceratops Dec 4 #26
HELL NO berksdem Dec 4 #27
It would be like kissing the ring. I would change my dem affiliation immediately if he did that. CrispyQ Dec 4 #28
At this point it doesn't make much difference, trump is free and will resume office in January. While I agree Silent Type Dec 4 #29
Show NO QUARTER to DonOLD tRump! ProudMNDemocrat Dec 4 #30
If TSF steps down first. Blues Heron Dec 4 #31
Just no. Groundhawg Dec 4 #32
Is this another example of The Art of the Deal? If so, what do we get? Ping Tung Dec 4 #33
Go ahead if you never want people voting for a Democrat again, ever. ZonkerHarris Dec 4 #34
No. Scrivener7 Dec 4 #35
Not a chance EnergizedLib Dec 4 #36
I thought Trump was an existential threat to Democracy and also a Fascist. That's what we were told anyway. jalan48 Dec 4 #37
Notice that this post received ZERO RECS AKwannabe Dec 4 #38
I kind of expected this to sink like a stone, but I wonder if I may have set some sort of record... thesquanderer Dec 4 #62
You want them calling us Weak on Crime? Emile Dec 4 #39
If those with power, who made a point of telling the world how dangerous Trump is, surrender Solly Mack Dec 4 #40
I'm glad this OP is getting flamed tenderfoot Dec 4 #41
Never Meowmee Dec 4 #47
Well, it's a terrible case. flvegan Dec 4 #48
Absolutely not standingtall Dec 4 #50
Correct. That was in my OP as well. He can only be pardoned for federal crimes... thesquanderer Dec 4 #53
the entire idea is disgusting. nt ecstatic Dec 4 #52
NO! Owl Dec 4 #54
Here we go Cirsium Dec 4 #56
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