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50. How Rep. James Clyburn Protected His District at a Cost to Black Democrats -Pro Publica

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Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:15 AM

Dec 9

The meeting was arranged in secret. On Nov. 19, 2021, the chief of staff for South Carolina’s Senate Judiciary Committee texted Dalton Tresvant, a key aide to Rep. Jim Clyburn, the state’s most powerful Democrat.

“Hey Dalton - Andy Fiffick here,” he said. “We wrapped up some morning things quicker than we thought, so if you want/can come earlier than 1:30 we’re available.”

"Facing the possibility of an unsafe district, South Carolina’s most powerful Democrat sent his aide to consult with the GOP on a redistricting plan that diluted Black voting strength and harmed his party’s chances of gaining seats in Congress".

The resulting map, finalized in January 2022, made Clyburn’s lock on power stronger than it might have been otherwise. A House of Representatives seat that Democrats held as recently as 2018 would become even more solid for the incumbent Republican. This came at a cost: Democrats now have virtually no shot of winning any congressional seat in South Carolina other than Clyburn’s, state political leaders on both sides of the aisle say.

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-rep-james-clyburn-protected-his-district-at-a-cost-to-black-democrats

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Clyburn wants Biden to Pardon Trump to "clean the slate." [View all] Baitball Blogger Dec 9 OP

He'll no.... Lovie777 Dec 9 #1

Retirement is a very good idea. Passages Dec 9 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 9 #61

Nono no malaise Dec 9 #3

Watch out Clyburn, Democrats will eat you in a second despite your decades of stellar service and Silent Type Dec 9 #4

One step forward, and two steps back is never good advice to follow. Baitball Blogger Dec 9 #5

Yes, until the shocking debate. Then, Clyburn did what was best for party at time. Silent Type Dec 9 #6

So it's okay after all to do things best for the party? Nixie Dec 9 #9

How is pardoning Drumph good for the party? MadLinguist Dec 9 #34

Pardoning Trump does what for our party? Not a fucking thing. Time for these people Autumn Dec 9 #48

So, you believe that Bettie Dec 9 #7

At this point it makes no difference. The cases against trump are over. Clyburn shouldn't be bashed Silent Type Dec 9 #11

Aha! That's your misunderstanding. Baitball Blogger Dec 9 #15

I'm not spending the next 4 years obsessing over cases that are effectively over. They won't be reopened, Silent Type Dec 9 #18

He can pardon trump when he pardons Snowden, Kingsbury, Teixeira, and a couple more Autumn Dec 9 #49

If they're effectively over then what's the point of a pardon? Is it just a gesture of submission? Crunchy Frog Dec 11 #75

Of course it makes a difference... Think. Again. Dec 9 #16

And what good do you think that will do us other that singing to the choir. Silent Type Dec 9 #19

What good would a pardon do? Think. Again. Dec 9 #21

Ask Clyburn, he cares about country, not just retribution. Since there is virtually Silent Type Dec 9 #22

What's the use of a pardon? Think. Again. Dec 9 #23

Read Clyburn's comments. Silent Type Dec 9 #24

I'm challenging your defense of a pardon... Think. Again. Dec 9 #29

Exactly! there is bluestarone Dec 9 #42

Do you also think Ford was correct in his preemptive pardon for Nixon "for the good of the Country"? bluesbassman Dec 9 #43

Exactly. What do we stand for? and for those who try to rationalize this with the Hunter Biden pardon is even more JohnSJ Dec 9 #26

Yes BeerBarrelPolka Dec 9 #38

Disagreeing with an elder statesman's perspective Docreed2003 Dec 9 #20

I respect Clyburn's service but he is dead wrong on this ecstatic Dec 9 #65

Always highly respected Clyburn, and appreciate his effort as a peacemaker. However, allegorical oracle Dec 9 #8

Trump is a ruthless psychopath and a pardon will only embolden him. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #10

Actually i think it might de-fang Trump and his MAGAs. I he is never going to be held accountable so a pardon will Jit423 Dec 9 #27

No. Your view is not consistent with how psychopaths think, feel and behave. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #32

Remember when he exonerated himself after Barr helped him out with travelingthrulife Dec 9 #53

100% certain that a pardon will not defang a ruthless psychopath. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #67

"A pardon means he is guilty" What? No, a pardon doesn't mean you're guilty. NYC Liberal Dec 11 #82

Thank you sir, may I have another? BeyondGeography Dec 9 #12

Why would we want to clean the slate? Think. Again. Dec 9 #13

Great question! nt RandiFan1290 Dec 9 #14

Sure, this act of good faith would be Cosmocat Dec 9 #17

. Think. Again. Dec 9 #30

+3 LOL 😆 Emile Dec 9 #31

I give up 😔 Blue_Tires Dec 9 #25

Hell to the fuck no. ms liberty Dec 9 #28

Fuck you Clyburn. And fuck any democrat who thinks likewise. Ray Bruns Dec 9 #33

+10,000 BeerBarrelPolka Dec 9 #41

No. No pardon is necessary. nt Gore1FL Dec 9 #35

Hell no! Ridiculous! Owl Dec 9 #36

Supporting Democrats and not bashing Democrats is kind of hard with politicians acting like this. Hotler Dec 9 #37

So... the Democratic Party ends in a whimper Mr.WeRP Dec 9 #39

Absolute NO! Clouds Passing Dec 9 #40

Clyburn is 84 years old. Wonder if he is thinking Emile Dec 9 #44

His daughter is teed up to succeed him BeyondGeography Dec 11 #79

That slate should remain for all to see for all times spanone Dec 9 #45

OMG! XanaDUer2 Dec 9 #46

Nope. Absolutely, 1000% nope. Tommy Carcetti Dec 9 #47

How Rep. James Clyburn Protected His District at a Cost to Black Democrats -Pro Publica jalan48 Dec 9 #50

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE vapor2 Dec 9 #51

Arrest, trial and conviction would clean slate better. Kid Berwyn Dec 9 #52

Trump has seen the error of his ways? Turbineguy Dec 9 #54

Even George W. Bush had the balls not to pardon Scooter Libby crimycarny Dec 9 #55

NO - a thousand times no northoftheborder Dec 9 #56

and kinda pissed off at my Senator Klobuchar too... a kennedy Dec 9 #57

Clyburn is trying to "clean the slate" while trump plans City Lights Dec 9 #58

Feckless appeasement. nt The Unmitigated Gall Dec 9 #59

That will be the day that the_liberal_grandpa Dec 9 #60

Hell no awesomerwb1 Dec 9 #62

I'm confident that someone will explain to him ecstatic Dec 9 #63

That is SO STUPID. GaYellowDawg Dec 9 #64

Sorry, GaYellowDawg, I'm gonna have to disagree on this one... Montauk6 Dec 10 #71

LOL, well played! GaYellowDawg Dec 11 #84

Screw you, Clyburn, sucking up to the orange turd, Damn. republianmushroom Dec 9 #66

Clyburn is out of his don't fight back, appeasement mind! GoreWon2000 Dec 9 #68

THIS WON'T "CLEAN THE SLATE" ANY MORE THAN TRUMP WOULD "DRAIN THE SWAMP"!!!!! Montauk6 Dec 10 #69

PUKE! orleans Dec 10 #70

it's not just Jan. 6 bigtree Dec 10 #72

Apparently Rep. Clyburn never heard of The O'Jays song "Backstabbers" before. Crowman2009 Dec 11 #73

We need to stop taking doilies to gunfights. Crunchy Frog Dec 11 #74

So President Biden should demolish his legacy? PJMcK Dec 11 #76

Not a good idea bdamomma Dec 11 #77

And the Democrats should throw a welcome home party for the Jan 6th "patriots" when Trump releases them too. dem4decades Dec 11 #78

1 word Botany Dec 11 #80

Old traditional Democrats need to go away kansasobama Dec 11 #81

No! The Nixon pardon ruined the Democratic Party. We looked weak. Greybnk48 Dec 11 #83

Fuck that shit. Oopsie Daisy Dec 11 #85