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Sympthsical

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Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:07 PM Dec 9

CEO shooter Luigi Mangione laid out his motive on Good Reads [View all]

I don't think there's going to be a lot of "Why did he do it?" about this one. He left a review of the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski's book.

https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/55354261-luigi-mangione

Clearly written by a mathematics prodigy. Reads like a series of lemmas on the question of 21st century quality of life.

It's easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out.

He was a violent individual - rightfully imprisoned - who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary.

A take I found online that I think is interesting:

"Had the balls to recognize that peaceful protest has gotten us absolutely nowhere and at the end of the day, he's probably right. Oil barons haven't listened to any environmentalists, but they feared him.

When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's war and revolution. Fossil fuel companies actively suppress anything that stands in their way and within a generation or two, it will begin costing human lives by greater and greater magnitudes until the earth is just a flaming ball orbiting third from the sun. Peaceful protest is outright ignored, economic protest isn't possible in the current system, so how long until we recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense.

These companies don't care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

We're animals just like everything else on this planet, except we've forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival. "Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators."
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Post removed Post removed Dec 9 #1
Prison rape jokes and hopes are not permitted on this Board, last time I checked Prairie Gates Dec 9 #2
The most powerful man in America IS A RAPIST onecaliberal Dec 9 #12
As are like at least a quarter of his cabinet secretaries. Karasu Dec 9 #21
to the extent that prison rape exists, rampartd Dec 10 #66
Kick dalton99a Dec 9 #3
He'll be a hero in prison. Demobrat Dec 9 #4
If he makes it to prison NJCher Dec 9 #10
Good thing ForgedCrank Dec 9 #22
Timothy McVeigh killed innocent people. Aristus Dec 9 #25
Are you ForgedCrank Dec 9 #26
Timothy McVeigh was found guilty in a court of law. Aristus Dec 9 #27
you're flipping ForgedCrank Dec 9 #28
I'm strangely drawn to his side. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 9 #32
I draw a hard line between the two things. ForgedCrank Dec 9 #35
But isn't it more of an assassination than murder? SleeplessinSoCal Dec 9 #43
The National Review is a right-wing cesspool. TwilightZone Dec 9 #46
I purposely used a right-wing source to show the denial. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 10 #65
There is a difference between understanding a motive Demobrat Dec 9 #38
I see, ForgedCrank Dec 9 #39
You're better. Demobrat Dec 9 #40
Seriously. H2O Man Dec 10 #62
Our "justice system" protects the one percent. That's become more apparent with every high profile BComplex Dec 9 #29
Our "justice system" protects the one percent. ForgedCrank Dec 9 #31
Hard to agree that our justice system doesn't favor the 1% Aristus Dec 9 #36
I'll refer ForgedCrank Dec 9 #37
You nailed it. H2O Man Dec 10 #63
OOPS! Marcia Clark spent over 3 times what OJ did. GreenWave Dec 10 #60
Well this shooter was part of the 1% LeftInTX Dec 9 #34
He also was an Elon and Thiel stan. This isn't a class isue. Self Esteem Dec 10 #52
I was trying to figure out what you were saying NJCher Dec 9 #48
Thank you ForgedCrank Dec 9 #49
I fully understand your conviction about this soandso Dec 10 #50
You don't ForgedCrank Dec 10 #55
I didn't think you were defending insurance companies soandso Dec 10 #59
I'd love to live in a black and white world NJCher Dec 10 #56
I'm thankful ForgedCrank Dec 10 #57
Ok, welllll... NJCher Dec 10 #58
Did you ForgedCrank Dec 10 #61
completely mystified as to what your comprehension problem is NJCher Dec 10 #64
We have a justice system in place... Conjuay Dec 11 #72
The killer was wealthy himself. He don't need no GFM! LeftInTX Dec 9 #33
Agree, but when will the board of United Healthcare, Bluethroughu Dec 10 #71
He supposedly killed a member of the ownership class of this country. He will be suicided. AZLD4Candidate Dec 10 #70
Fascinating Johnny2X2X Dec 9 #5
He also posted a review of Brave New World ck4829 Dec 9 #6
If I were a juror and he had personally witnessed the death of family/friend because of denials, I might have had Silent Type Dec 9 #7
From his reading list, it looks like he has back problems and an interest in psychedelics among other things. LudwigPastorius Dec 9 #8
There's an X-ray from a back surgery on his Twitter Sympthsical Dec 9 #9
just so you know NJCher Dec 9 #11
The John Rogers quote. spike jones Dec 9 #13
never read NJCher Dec 9 #14
It is irony. Atlas Shrugged, not LOTR, is the actual childish fantasy. Celerity Dec 9 #15
yeah, I thought that NJCher Dec 9 #16
I believe grok is from Stranger in a Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. ShazzieB Dec 9 #18
Yep, that's the one. nolabear Dec 9 #20
If you don't think fantasy fiction has anything to offer, give it a miss. However, if one likes the genre... Hekate Dec 9 #41
early involvements in reading NJCher Dec 10 #53
Damn, I'm always behind! 🤪 ShazzieB Dec 9 #17
oh, sigh NJCher Dec 9 #19
Grok iirc is full and complete mental and spiritual understanding between people or of a situation... Hekate Dec 9 #45
"Violence is as American as cherry pie." cer7711 Dec 9 #23
His goodreads account is now private. LauraInLA Dec 9 #24
The EPA was founded in 1970 by Richard Nixon. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 9 #30
I know the type. Jacson6 Dec 9 #42
This guy was a right winger standingtall Dec 9 #44
one of his friends is mentioning a possible second motive ecstatic Dec 9 #47
. dalton99a Dec 10 #51
that certainly hits home NJCher Dec 10 #54
+1. The sentiment is shared by many people dalton99a Dec 10 #68
This was looking to be a good read Blue_Roses Dec 10 #67
Corporate Media Coverage or Cover up uncledad Dec 10 #69
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