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OrlandoDem2

(2,362 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:17 PM Dec 9

Here's the thing about the UHC murder. There will be no changes to our insurance or healthcare system. [View all]

Actually, any change I see now involves Trump declaring that Obamacare is a failure and therefore should be abolished. He will make things worse.

I keep seeing politicians declare that they understand people are frustrated with insurance. Gov Shapiro was just on a press conference saying he understands people’s frustrations. I don’t think he really does. I know he’s on my political side but I simply can’t say he “gets” it.

Mangione will be charged. He will be tried. I can’t say I support vigilantism, but I don’t have a lot of sympathy for too many CEOs of multibillion dollar corporations, especially health insurance.

The only way the situation changes is through massive reform to healthcare. I am so tired of spending so much money and getting little in return. People in European countries and Canada have so much better healthcare than we do but our leaders do nothing!

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Here's the thing about the UHC murder. There will be no changes to our insurance or healthcare system. [View all] OrlandoDem2 Dec 9 OP

Here's the thing about the UHC murder. Sneederbunk Dec 9 #1

A clone will replace him. LeftInTX Dec 9 #12

So if a clone replaces the dead one, is it murder? I'd argue not. Luigi should get off scott free. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #41

Why we need to normalize "not paying" ck4829 Dec 9 #2

Back a few years ago, the medical office I worked for quit taking United. Lunabell Dec 9 #3

NONE of these people get it. They've never been denied. Made disabled or bankrupted. onecaliberal Dec 9 #4

I have no sympathy for a CEO of UnitedHealth who was in the hot seat for alleged fraud Autumn Dec 9 #5

The shooter didn't do him a favor AdamGG Dec 9 #19

We need Medicare for All. Or I'd take some sort of hybrid system. OrlandoDem2 Dec 9 #6

Yeah. But Congress has had 6 decades to do something and failed. Not suggesting shooting them in back, Silent Type Dec 9 #10

When we lived in Singapore, bamagal62 Dec 9 #16

HELLO Skittles Dec 9 #22

Look into the history of the labor movement SamuelTheThird Dec 9 #7

Oh yes. That is definitely correct. OrlandoDem2 Dec 9 #8

See also: Ludlow, Homestead, Matewan, Little Steel, Bay View, Pattonsville, Thibodaux . . . . hatrack Dec 9 #14

Are you advocating we here at DU get violent? Kaleva Dec 10 #23

nice try Voltaire2 Dec 10 #30

It's now considered advocating violence to point out historical facts SamuelTheThird Dec 10 #39

That isn't an answer. Kaleva Dec 11 #42

there's not enough solidarity in this country for either to be effective The Wandering Harper Dec 11 #43

Interesting. You may be right Kaleva Dec 11 #44

Who is we? SamuelTheThird Dec 11 #45

So you support we here at DU to use murder and other violence? Kaleva Dec 12 #46

How about this SamuelTheThird Dec 12 #48

Please indicate where you feel the poster advocated Scrivener7 Dec 12 #54

Im not insurance companies want ACA gone Johonny Dec 9 #9

Here is the issue Trenzalore Dec 9 #11

I had never even heard of a ghost gun until today. OrlandoDem2 Dec 9 #13

Don't you know the wealthy are more valuable people than your public school children? Stargazer99 Dec 10 #28

KID? WTF, THAT GUN HUMPING MURDERER IS 26 YEARS OLD Skittles Dec 12 #53

Bu isn't this widespread discussion about corporate abuses of Americans great!!! Think. Again. Dec 9 #15

One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme. Ron Green Dec 9 #17

Well. One thing changed... AKwannabe Dec 9 #18

Yes, but leftieNanner Dec 9 #21

All their security can't diminish the psychological fear they have Cattledog Dec 12 #51

None of them practically get it Meowmee Dec 9 #20

I work in the industry and this berksdem Dec 10 #24

Everyone should read this! OrlandoDem2 Dec 10 #33

I saw a headline today: "Health insurance companies worried about protecting top execs". Initech Dec 10 #25

Reform of healthcare is just another "thoughts and prayers" Klarkashton Dec 10 #26

Right. The big wigs will just get 24/7 bodyguards. brush Dec 10 #27

Well at the least it has surfaced widespread discontent, and another national discussion about how shitty Voltaire2 Dec 10 #29

Well, we have national discussions of our shitty gun laws and nothing changes! OrlandoDem2 Dec 10 #34

There is a huge difference in this event. Voltaire2 Dec 10 #36

You're not wrong. I still have little faith this'll change anything. OrlandoDem2 Dec 10 #37

Oh sure, most likely everything will continue to get worse. Voltaire2 Dec 10 #38

Rates will go up to cover the fat cats' security teams. Irish_Dem Dec 10 #31

The story now will be KT2000 Dec 10 #32

Big Corporations will never see it Blue_Roses Dec 10 #35

I see a lot of posts from people in Europe in threads scipan Dec 10 #40

You are correct, there will be no change. LudwigPastorius Dec 12 #47

Nope. It's just one less corrupt asshole who profited off the misery of others. GoodRaisin Dec 12 #49

The problem comes down to voters themselves JI7 Dec 12 #50

Costs will go up, benefits down, to pay for the Musk and Zuck sized armies of bodyguards. usonian Dec 12 #52