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sheshe2

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66. Please link to that study, I would like to read it.

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:36 PM

Dec 10

Forgive me but thousands of lives would have been saved if trump did not lie to the American people.

Trump told Bob Woodward he knew in February that COVID-19 was 'deadly stuff' but wanted to 'play it down'

"It's not just old people," Trump told Woodward, acknowledging the gravity of the disease, The Washington Post reported.

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In the same interview, Trump acknowledged that the disease was more deadly than he previously thought.

"Now it's turning out it's not just old people, Bob. But just today, and yesterday, some startling facts came out. It's not just old, older," Trump said, according to an audio clip, and then added, "young people, too, plenty of young people."

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Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday afternoon, said he'd been trying to avoid "panic" and was showing "leadership."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-told-bob-woodward-he-knew-february-covid-19-was-n1239658

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Ken Klippenstein: I got the Luigi Mangione manifesto. The real one, not the forgery circulating online. [View all] Dennis Donovan Dec 10 OP

I've got stacks an stacks of good stuff to read struggle4progress Dec 10 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 10 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #3

If what's in the stacks was really that good you'd probably be reading it. BannonsLiver Dec 10 #17

pass on your stacks Nimble_Idea Dec 10 #30

because it's a valid viewpoint? Enough after decades of being screwed? Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #40

It's valid to commit murder? mcar Dec 11 #95

We all have our threshold of what we can tolerate. This was his. Evolve Dammit Dec 11 #100

Was it valid for the killer of Dr. Tiller to commit murder? mcar Dec 11 #102

If you've got so much to read drmeow Dec 10 #76

a word to the wise &c&c struggle4progress Dec 10 #77

Na!!! Ken Klippenstein is an internet prankster. It's all good! LeftInTX Dec 11 #80

Hard pass on the stacks orangecrush Dec 11 #88

Key phrase Cartoonist Dec 10 #4

+1 leftstreet Dec 10 #6

or Congress RussBLib Dec 10 #25

Better: The corporate news media has not done its job and put the facts in front of the people. erronis Dec 10 #27

Spot on Evolve Dammit Dec 10 #41

The corporate news TheFarseer Dec 10 #72

"But how are we going to pay for it, Bernie?" bikes and bunnies Dec 10 #53

Please link to that study, I would like to read it. sheshe2 Dec 10 #66

Yes what a crock blame hrc for the psycho murdering millions with lies etc. on covid Meowmee Dec 10 #68

It's not either/or MadameButterfly Dec 11 #85

So basically, a long-winded version of, "I did it you dirty coppers!" RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 10 #5

I cry for that boy. Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #7

Unfortunately, there is no actual remedy for it Bettie Dec 10 #10

The assumption is that our laws will continually stop acts like the one Mangione took. Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #16

The remedy is a remedy is to UpInArms Dec 11 #91

A 26-year-old is not a boy. LudwigPastorius Dec 10 #12

He is and he's not. yardwork Dec 10 #49

Pretty much.... hitting about 30 talking adult. LizBeth Dec 10 #64

He's a white male born to an uber-wealthy family. No one failed him. Self Esteem Dec 10 #47

What a strange reply. Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #54

Not all Americans. He clearly didn't have empathy for the man he shot and killed. Self Esteem Dec 10 #58

Yes, he's a murderer. And if you read back you'll see I never condoned it. Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #59

Whether that's true or not, our country did not fail him. Self Esteem Dec 10 #69

We are going to disagree. Baitball Blogger Dec 10 #71

Yes we are going to disagree. He's not an unfortunate soul left behind. Self Esteem Dec 10 #75

Maybe he did it because he's a narcissist this is his way of "being a hero". He certainly has admirers now. LeftInTX Dec 11 #81

He still has issues w medical care IbogaProject Dec 11 #99

He was a man not a boy. sheshe2 Dec 10 #73

Part of that is actually what's been reported soandso Dec 10 #8

Typical narcissistic wacko paints himself as a hero of sorts. bucolic_frolic Dec 10 #9

who cares Nimble_Idea Dec 10 #31

That's how I see him. He's like Trump..."I can shoot someone in the middle of the street and I would be a hero" LeftInTX Dec 11 #82

Still trying to understand what he thought shooting the UHC CEO would accomplish. It changed nothing. sop Dec 10 #11

I think his plan was: LudwigPastorius Dec 10 #15

nvm TommyT139 Dec 10 #29

I think he's hoping to get lots of attention during the trial and thinks that will spur a nationwide discussion LauraInLA Dec 10 #18

as the orange diarrhea would say - wut u got to lose? Nimble_Idea Dec 10 #32

It inspired others. He's become a martyr for those who have no other outlet, those who have nothing left to lose. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #19

Its made the cost of healthcare an evil of insurance companies the number 1 topic in news and social media ColinC Dec 10 #21

Seems he got a lot of people talking about healthcare in America. Tom Yossarian Joad Dec 10 #34

He got BCBS to back off the anesthesia policy. 33taw Dec 10 #63

It's complex. Trellastic Dec 10 #13

Interesting stuff ThePartyThatListens Dec 10 #14

I'll just say what I have been saying for the last 20 years or more: Jit423 Dec 10 #20

i have also been saying for years barbtries Dec 10 #48

I'd like to see him walk. nt LexVegas Dec 10 #22

It's possible to entertain conflicting opinions. LAS14 Dec 10 #23

Agree. But first let's have trump face the full force of the law. erronis Dec 10 #28

good luck with that Nimble_Idea Dec 10 #35

We've been TRYING. Literally nothing has fucking worked. Karasu Dec 10 #36

Yeah many have forgotten about orange psycho Meowmee Dec 10 #67

"Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming." Parasites, plural? JoseBalow Dec 10 #24

He was almost certainly referring to UHC (and the health insurance industry) as a whole. Karasu Dec 10 #37

Maybe... I guess we'll find out JoseBalow Dec 10 #42

Reply to post on bluesky... Clouds Passing Dec 10 #26

Can't say that, because "Violeenc bead!" from the illiterates who have never read a history book in their lives. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #50

JFK knew what he was talking about. BlueKota Dec 10 #65

Openly admitting ForgedCrank Dec 10 #38

All the more reason to declare him not guilty. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #43

They will increase the charges later. LeftInTX Dec 11 #83

That's pretty short, don't know why MSM outlets keep chopping it down. SunSeeker Dec 10 #39

Pretty clear. They're already posting articles about "Don't give up the culture war, ignore the class war!" Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #44

has someone started a GoFundMe for him yet? 4catsmom Dec 10 #45

Several times but GFM has shut them down. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #52

Don't quite understand your reply, but tis what tis. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 10 #61

Did Kyle Rittenhouse have GFM? Ninga Dec 10 #56

He did, but not for his legal defense. Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #57

Thanks for the clarification. Ninga Dec 10 #60

NP! o7 I try to keep an ear to the ground for enemy movements. :) n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 10 #62

I don't know, but I remember people at DU being happy that he was acquitted Meowmee Dec 10 #70

Very intelligent people can harbor bizarre delusions. markodochartaigh Dec 10 #51

I see orangecrush Dec 11 #89

"Early and unnatural death" markodochartaigh Dec 11 #90

Both are fascinating malaise Dec 10 #74

Copycat. usonian Dec 10 #78

The rest of the CEO's are reading this and reading this and reading this.... Passages Dec 10 #79

Ken Klippenstein wrote that. He's an internet prankster LeftInTX Dec 11 #84

I know who he is, but thank you. Passages Dec 11 #87

It turns out that it's real. My apologies. LeftInTX Dec 11 #96

It's ok...Ken does play on the public perception sometimes. Passages Dec 11 #103

Do you have proof that he wrote this exact piece - TBF Dec 11 #93

I think it is real because now other media sources are picking it up. LeftInTX Dec 11 #97

That makes perfect sense - thanks. TBF Dec 11 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author Passages Dec 11 #86

An example of lone wolf, leaderless resistance. Impossible to stop. cer7711 Dec 11 #92

Also, a big "L" Libertarian, tech bro type... AntiFascist Dec 11 #94

Agree - this is just an issue that resonated with so many. TBF Dec 11 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 11 #104