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MadameButterfly

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94. My HVAC guy says that in politics everyone lying. He thinks equally on the right and the left.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:07 AM
Thursday

He said he like DOGE because he thinks there is so much waste.
I asked him if he thought Elon was the guy to trust with cutting waste. He thought you could trust the Billionaires because they didn't want money because they had enough money.
I asked him how he felt about them cutting SS. He said he didn't think they'd get away with that. No complaint that they are trying though. He's fine with it because someone will stop them. We didn't discuss who. (Maybe those lying Democrats?)

He doesn't like Trump but he went on about the dishonesty of Pelosi and Biden. He's clearly getting info from different sources than me.

The irony is that I switched to him because he was recommended as ethical and honest. Some other HVAC people were trying to sell me stuff overpriced and with-holding some critical information. He has been transparent, affordable, and informative so far. He seems more expert at HVAC than the other's I've worked with.

I do worry about the cognitive abilities of someone so duped in politics. On the other hand, perhaps we have to consider that even reasonably intelligent and decent people are falling for RW bullshit. What to do?

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I don't know what to say anymore [View all] angrychair Wednesday OP
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My HVAC guy says that in politics everyone lying. He thinks equally on the right and the left. MadameButterfly Thursday #94
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