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26. Proclaim what you want. But you can't love democracy, rule of law, liberty and justice for all ONLY WHEN YOU WIN.

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Fri Jan 10, 2025, 02:49 PM

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I never want to hear these words from anyone ever again. [View all] Ray Bruns Jan 10 OP

Yes it is a total lie. We were brainwashed into believing so much bullshit. Irish_Dem Jan 10 #1

George Carlin.........perfect DENVERPOPS Jan 10 #24

He was way ahead of the curve. We all laughed at the time. Irish_Dem Jan 10 #38

That's chilling how Roc2020 Jan 11 #72

All men (+women) are created equal.... magicarpet Jan 11 #54

Ha ha. Women are still second class citizens. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #60

Yep. Depressing, isn't it. Diamond_Dog Jan 11 #76

Depressing and disgusting. Irish_Dem Jan 11 #77

Completely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 11 #67

"No one is above the law." nt eppur_se_muova Jan 10 #2

Which we now know is complete Different Drummer Jan 10 #14

Well, we do know of one person who is somehow able to make sure HE is above the law. calimary Jan 10 #46

How about DENVERPOPS Jan 10 #21

Every person gets one vote, they just don't all count as much. nt Shermann Jan 11 #66

Just like in Russia DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #71

Did you believe in it before this day? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 10 #3

I did when I was young. Starry eyed fourteen year old in high school. Ray Bruns Jan 10 #5

I complained to my mother about having to recite the pledge daily at school. cyndensco Jan 11 #49

I remember DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #58

I used to misbehave during the pledge in elementary school. Lucky Luciano Jan 11 #59

Blatantly false advertising that should be removed from the Supreme Whorehouse dalton99a Jan 10 #4

Too bad for you. dchill Jan 10 #6

Used to say that fucking shit every week at Boy Scouts. Had no idea it was a total crock of shit. SoFlaBro Jan 10 #7

I stopped standing in high school and my children were taught not to stand. Keepthesoulalive Jan 10 #12

My brother refused to do it pretty early on Meowmee Jan 11 #51

Small town police radio scanners you hear important names that never that never get to court. IA8IT Jan 10 #8

Here's another one: Stargleamer Jan 10 #9

And "the US is a nation of laws"... Bettie Jan 10 #13

... Different Drummer Jan 10 #16

Yup.. please stop saying that.... 🤦🏻‍♀️ Most of us knew it was never true Meowmee Jan 11 #52

The whole pledge can be banned LakeArenal Jan 10 #10

1954 niyad Jan 10 #30

During Eisenhower to distinguish us from the "godless" communists state of stupid Jan 10 #31

With a big push from the bunch of dress-up clowns, the Knights of Columbus. NT BobsYourUncle Jan 11 #48

Ain't that the truth DaBronx Jan 10 #11

It is my sincere hope BigMin28 Jan 11 #56

Yep DaBronx Jan 12 #78

yeah. barbtries Jan 10 #15

K & R Emile Jan 10 #17

Likewise about the US being a shinning beacon of democracy. drray23 Jan 10 #18

Nope, of course, when did they ever really ring true? Magoo48 Jan 10 #19

"Don't do the crime if you cant do the time" bsiebs Jan 10 #20

That depends on how much money and influence you have state of stupid Jan 10 #32

Well, in spite of the fact that "liberty and justice for all" wnylib Jan 10 #22

Just change the last word....... lastlib Jan 10 #23

Perfect 😹 Just add Life to it as well Meowmee Jan 11 #53

I get nauseous when I hear the word liberty it is such bs word that the right wingers throw out kimbutgar Jan 10 #25

You still have the liberty to fight for everything you say is lost. You still have liberty. If you say you don't, ancianita Jan 10 #27

But what happens when "we the people " are annihilated by his MAGAloons that he'll send out to go after kimbutgar Jan 10 #29

Don't make up hypotheticals to continue your fear habit. Fear kills the soul and hardens hearts and minds. ancianita Jan 10 #39

Proclaim what you want. But you can't love democracy, rule of law, liberty and justice for all ONLY WHEN YOU WIN. ancianita Jan 10 #26

That seems like some very convoluted logic. Nt lostnfound Jan 10 #43

How so? ancianita Jan 10 #44

The OP writes of disillusionment. To be dis-illusioned is to free oneself from an illusion lostnfound Jan 11 #74

The OP writes "I never want to hear..." "Disillusionment" is solely your interpretation, and thanks for your thoughts. ancianita Jan 11 #75

Fair points, but on the other hand, pinning one's hope for "democracy" on the U.S. may be antiquated idea lostnfound Jan 14 #79

The same people who make a mockery of the Rule of Law want to make kids pray and read the bible in school. sop Jan 10 #28

I do. pandr32 Jan 10 #33

And "no man is above the law." What a load of bullshit. Comfortably_Numb Jan 10 #34

With Liberty and Justice for Some Little Frieda Jan 10 #35

The Rule of Law is indeed dead. -misanthroptimist Jan 10 #36

there's no justice, it's just us Celerity Jan 10 #37

and I stopped singing the national anthem many years ago.. Permanut Jan 10 #40

You are made blind to soo many things as someone who grows up in America... DSandra Jan 10 #41

As long as we're tossing out antiquated American slogans... Xavier Breath Jan 10 #42

Certainly bdamomma Jan 10 #45

I thought you were going to say "Felon Trump." stollen Jan 11 #47

I keep saying "with liberty and justice for all". regardless of the rest of the world and DU. Tetrachloride Jan 11 #50

Right on!! Ferrets are Cool Jan 11 #55

It is an ideal to work toward dlk Jan 11 #57

The phrase "law and order" can also go fuck itself . . . hatrack Jan 11 #61

"Patriot" Seinan Sensei Jan 11 #62

I'd be happy if we could permanently and officially omit "Under God" * Oopsie Daisy Jan 11 #63

I quit saying the pledge of allegiance long ago IzzaNuDay Jan 11 #64

i actually chuckled when i read "and justice for all" nt orleans Jan 11 #65

Well, that's one approach. I'd rather scream them at the top of my lungs at the end as an act of shaming and defiance. KatjeD Jan 11 #68

Replace with "the pursuit of liberty and justice for all." HereForTheParty Jan 11 #69

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...." Doc_Technical Jan 11 #70

Haven't been able to say those words since Ford pardoned Nixon Attilatheblond Jan 11 #73