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In reply to the discussion: I never want to hear these words from anyone ever again. [View all]
lostnfound
(16,769 posts)79. Fair points, but on the other hand, pinning one's hope for "democracy" on the U.S. may be antiquated idea
Some of the younger generation that i know is beyond fed up with the US land-of-vultures. They have found opportunity, civility, more educated people in other countries. On occasion they say they’d prefer to never come back, and if currently here, they say they can’t see themselves staying.
If they’ve had the experience of living abroad, they no longer find the US to be the seat of civilization, nor a place of “liberty and justice for all”. It’s not that they don’t believe in “liberty and justice for all” as an ideal, but they admire certain other countries as being closer to that ideal that our own.
You mention “faith in ideas”, but isn’t it “faith in America” where we may have some difference?
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Well, we do know of one person who is somehow able to make sure HE is above the law.
calimary
Friday
#46
Used to say that fucking shit every week at Boy Scouts. Had no idea it was a total crock of shit.
SoFlaBro
Friday
#7
I stopped standing in high school and my children were taught not to stand.
Keepthesoulalive
Friday
#12
Small town police radio scanners you hear important names that never that never get to court.
IA8IT
Friday
#8
With a big push from the bunch of dress-up clowns, the Knights of Columbus. NT
BobsYourUncle
Saturday
#48
I get nauseous when I hear the word liberty it is such bs word that the right wingers throw out
kimbutgar
Friday
#25
You still have the liberty to fight for everything you say is lost. You still have liberty. If you say you don't,
ancianita
Friday
#27
But what happens when "we the people " are annihilated by his MAGAloons that he'll send out to go after
kimbutgar
Friday
#29
Don't make up hypotheticals to continue your fear habit. Fear kills the soul and hardens hearts and minds.
ancianita
Friday
#39
Proclaim what you want. But you can't love democracy, rule of law, liberty and justice for all ONLY WHEN YOU WIN.
ancianita
Friday
#26
The OP writes of disillusionment. To be dis-illusioned is to free oneself from an illusion
lostnfound
Saturday
#74
The OP writes "I never want to hear..." "Disillusionment" is solely your interpretation, and thanks for your thoughts.
ancianita
Saturday
#75
Fair points, but on the other hand, pinning one's hope for "democracy" on the U.S. may be antiquated idea
lostnfound
9 hrs ago
#79
The same people who make a mockery of the Rule of Law want to make kids pray and read the bible in school.
sop
Friday
#28
I keep saying "with liberty and justice for all". regardless of the rest of the world and DU.
Tetrachloride
Saturday
#50
Well, that's one approach. I'd rather scream them at the top of my lungs at the end as an act of shaming and defiance.
KatjeD
Saturday
#68
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...."
Doc_Technical
Saturday
#70