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William769

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Sat Jan 25, 2025, 11:40 AM Jan 25

Presidential historian foresees "disastrous end" for Donald Trump [View all]

Presidential historian Alexis Coe has predicted a perilous four years for the Trump administration, as well as the GOP as a whole.

In an op-ed for MSNBC, Coe said former President Grover Cleveland’s second term – which she described as “a tragedy in four years” – should serve as a “cautionary tale” for Donald Trump.

“In 1892, Cleveland, like Trump in 2024, was resurrected by unwavering party loyalty despite losing the previous election,” Coe wrote. “Both men, separated by time but united in their disdain for the ‘establishment,’ demanded fealty with the fervor of medieval kings suffering from lead poisoning.”

But both leaders, she explained, proved to be incapable of handling national crises.

“For Cleveland, a Democrat, it was the Panic of 1893, a severe economic depression triggered by railroad overbuilding and shaky financing, which set off a series of bank failures. Within months, unemployment skyrocketed to nearly 20%, over 15,000 companies and 500 banks failed, and farmers in the South and Midwest faced ruin as crop prices plummeted.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/presidential-historian-foresees-disastrous-end-for-donald-trump/ar-AA1xQIZ7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=e2b6c4bd195e420b83dd0693ee9462b1&ei=23

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I hope she's right, but greatauntoftriplets Jan 25 #1
Me too! William769 Jan 25 #7
As the vulture on one of my favourite posters said, "Patience, my ass. . ." niyad Jan 25 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author AZJonnie Jan 25 #29
Yes, of course! It has been a while since I saw it. niyad Jan 25 #30
eagle, or vulture? LymphocyteLover Jan 25 #45
Vulture. niyad Jan 25 #64
We hope she is correct! niyad Jan 25 #16
Don't you mean "she's right"? mobeau69 Jan 25 #18
Thanks. greatauntoftriplets Jan 25 #23
Sadly, it's the only way enough maga will learn anything. louis-t Jan 25 #2
I don't think Trump will last 4 yrs. Historic NY Jan 25 #3
I want to stick with you! William769 Jan 25 #8
I have a feeling we will not see a full four years of Trump as well. Greybnk48 Jan 25 #26
Unless they rig the election BonnieJW Jan 25 #34
IF we're allowed to have elections Wicked Blue Jan 25 #44
Musk and Vance homegirl Jan 25 #47
I thought that in 2016. Aristus Jan 25 #42
Same here Dem4life1234 Jan 25 #58
I think drugs MFM008 Jan 25 #62
I read it's bad for the heart Dem4life1234 Jan 25 #63
Vance will push him out after the mid terms. Callie1979 Jan 25 #51
Given how he looked this week, I think Father Time will be arriving soon. LonePirate Jan 25 #54
The only solace is that he isn't in his 40s Dem4life1234 Jan 26 #69
I'm looking for a quicker "disastrous end" for Trump...before he totally devastates America's economy. sop Jan 25 #4
I think he will be removed BonnieJW Jan 25 #35
Vance has a benefactor liberalgunwilltravel Jan 25 #40
Wow, what a surprise! moondust Jan 25 #5
The sooner the better. Ocelot II Jan 25 #6
Amen to that! William769 Jan 25 #11
I believe that's inevitable. I just pray the oligarchs he's installing go down with everyone else on this Titanic voyage Texin Jan 25 #24
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Mike 03 Jan 25 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Jan 25 #10
From the article at the link: madaboutharry Jan 25 #12
This! Dem4life1234 Jan 26 #68
So, a disaster for the country, and Trump stays in power if he lives that long? muriel_volestrangler Jan 25 #13
The blatantly corrupt, out of control SCOTUS will Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 26 #65
The trump steamer. Turbineguy Jan 25 #14
The disastrouser the better Orrex Jan 25 #15
I hope it ends badly for him ITAL Jan 25 #17
Trump's rash actions and massive initial assault on government pfitz59 Jan 25 #20
I'm hoping for the Mussolini or Hitler ending. Mussolini is more likely than chicoescuela Jan 25 #21
Wasn't it a bridge? BonnieJW Jan 25 #36
Post removed Post removed Jan 25 #41
Wikipedia says it was at a service station. Ok with me chicoescuela Jan 25 #61
I don't hope for this Nasruddin Jan 25 #22
I see another Great Republican Depression in the Emile Jan 25 #25
It's likely to be a Crypto Crash. LudwigPastorius Jan 25 #53
Agree. 2008 redux. Strelnikov_ Jan 26 #70
I agree with the historian except for kellytore Jan 25 #27
"Disastrous" end for Trump? How about for the rest of us? That mother fucker will bring us down too. dem4decades Jan 25 #28
That sounds like disaster for us, not Trump. yardwork Jan 25 #31
I'm not so sure SpankMe Jan 25 #32
I see issues with every one of those points, although they all, are certainly relevant. Martin68 Jan 25 #38
Unfortunately, I Fear many of Those Outcomes, Which We Might See As Disastrous, The Roux Comes First Jan 25 #33
This is pretty much what I've been saying. This administration is an empty house of cards with no coherent strategy or Martin68 Jan 25 #37
The Banks Will Fail Deep State Witch Jan 25 #39
I fully agree. Trump was bad in his first term, but his loss to Biden changed him for the worse...much worse. patphil Jan 25 #43
This is the era of TV and social media brainwashing Mysterian Jan 25 #46
Everything Trump touches dies. NameAlreadyTaken Jan 25 #48
Haven't we here already done that? ananda Jan 25 #49
That's a stretch Cirsium Jan 25 #50
This does not help us NOW though. alarimer Jan 25 #52
Yet Cleveland wasn't a felon Dem4life1234 Jan 25 #55
Mussolini disasterous? edhopper Jan 25 #56
And in 1893, Cleveland's Democratic party were also the conservatives, weren't they? Beartracks Jan 25 #57
I hope she turns out to be a better academic historian futurologist anamnua Jan 25 #59
That is assuming we'll have free and fair elections going forward... Wounded Bear Jan 25 #60
Doesn't the dotard owe Vlad and his gang some favours? IzzaNuDay Jan 26 #66
Oh please let it be true. GoodRaisin Jan 26 #67
I'll be counting the days but I'm not going to hold my breath? ArnoldLayne Jan 26 #71
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