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treestar

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24. Is that really a given?

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:19 PM

Jun 2012

And so why not defend himself from the U.S. charges? Are you really claiming he would not have a trial here? That he could not get lawyers? And that his admirers could not raise money for all that?

What could he be charged with and what are the penalties? Persecution is being jailed for political opinion or race or religion or ethnic group. There are no such laws in the U.S. There might be such laws in a place like Ecuador (I don't know about now, but there have been S.A. dictators).

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Why does Julian Assange want to go to Ecuador? [View all] struggle4progress Jun 2012 OP

free wifi ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2012 #1

He's a soccer fan? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #2

After seeing warrprayer Jun 2012 #3

+1000 - Welcome to DU, warrprayer. Nice profile! Mnemosyne Jun 2012 #4

Mark twain warrprayer Jun 2012 #6

So very true! Mnemosyne Jun 2012 #26

+1 Exactly what I was going to say. n/t RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #5

Bull's eye. hifiguy Jun 2012 #8

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #9

Ecuador's so kind to its own alternative press. Robb Jun 2012 #10

The same argument was made against Chavez warrprayer Jun 2012 #11

Hello bigwillq Jun 2012 #25

Tanks warrprayer Jun 2012 #31

It would be a lot smarter to go to a country without an extradition treaty with America. nt hack89 Jun 2012 #54

Probably right warrprayer Jun 2012 #72

Actually, check out the stats for retiring to Ecuador. It honestly sounds like the next Costa Rica riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #7

Looks good to me! warrprayer Jun 2012 #13

I think that's actual footage of Assange dancing Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #36

I'm going with the women. treestar Jun 2012 #12

one of whom warrprayer Jun 2012 #14

If so, there is no excuse to rape her treestar Jun 2012 #15

He did not rape them , he didnt use a condom, BIG diff treestar larkrake Jun 2012 #16

Then why not defend himself? treestar Jun 2012 #17

Because Sweden warrprayer Jun 2012 #19

Is that really a given? treestar Jun 2012 #24

Still rape, under Sweedish law jeff47 Jun 2012 #28

it isn't really about warrprayer Jun 2012 #32

Then he'd be quickly acquitted in Sweden jeff47 Jun 2012 #42

He will be handed over to the US before there is any trial in Sweden. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #48

Because the UK hates the US so much they'd never hand him over. jeff47 Jun 2012 #50

A little more reading and a little less bloviating.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #62

So you're claiming the UK did not help with rendition and torture? jeff47 Jun 2012 #64

Of course you can provide examples from case law, Mr. Legal Expert reorg Jun 2012 #38

You can't apply US rape law in Sweden jeff47 Jun 2012 #40

that's not what happened and not what is alleged reorg Jun 2012 #44

No, rape laws are widly different. They go from non-existent to what's on the books in Sweden. jeff47 Jun 2012 #47

so you can't show us a single case or even an investigation reorg Jun 2012 #51

No, I did show you one jeff47 Jun 2012 #52

Well, no, you didn't reorg Jun 2012 #56

You asked for one. jeff47 Jun 2012 #57

the Swedish penal code is available in English translation reorg Jun 2012 #59

Then you'd have an incredibly easy time showing how their rape law doesn't apply jeff47 Jun 2012 #61

I already did, my friend reorg Jun 2012 #65

No, your beliefs are not the law jeff47 Jun 2012 #66

don't sell yourself cheap, my friend reorg Jun 2012 #69

She gave Assange warrprayer Jun 2012 #18

Well then answer to it treestar Jun 2012 #21

I would be all for a fair trial warrprayer Jun 2012 #23

Other threads on the board treestar Jun 2012 #37

The UK is infinitely more likely to hand him over than the Swedes. jeff47 Jun 2012 #41

OMG , I hope nobody ever listens to your legal advice reorg Jun 2012 #45

OMG I hope nobody ever listens to your geopolitical bullshit jeff47 Jun 2012 #46

As far as I remember, the bombing of Libya happened more like 198 days rather than years ago reorg Jun 2012 #53

So....didn't read that UN-backed mission part, huh? jeff47 Jun 2012 #55

So, there is no war in Afghanistan reorg Jun 2012 #58

Jeez, guess I only have to cut-n-paste here jeff47 Jun 2012 #60

Ouch, I didn't realize you were THAT uninformed reorg Jun 2012 #63

Again, running makes no sense if your claims are true. jeff47 Jun 2012 #67

The same reason that Chen Guangcheng sought asylum in America. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #20

The same reason Roman Polanski fled to France...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #22

Julian Assange warrprayer Jun 2012 #27

Leave Julian Alone!!! Robb Jun 2012 #29

Well, he certainly probably assaulted more women, if you count that as an "accomplishment". Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #30

Maybe that's the real crime the women should be accusing him for. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #33

LOL. Beat me to it n/t RZM Jun 2012 #35

Nobody likes a 'minute man' RZM Jun 2012 #34

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Jun 2012 #39

Thanks warrprayer Jun 2012 #70

Red herring! Get your red herring here! HuckleB Jun 2012 #43

Sorry Charlie warrprayer Jun 2012 #71

And more red herring! Cheap! HuckleB Jun 2012 #73

An aversion to small plane crashes and lead poisoning. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #49

Uruguay could surpass Ecuador GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #68