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In reply to the discussion: Coal Miners Crushed As White House Admits Trump Lied About Bringing Back Coal Jobs [View all]
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(82,849 posts)13. If only someone had warned them
I know that the authoritarian mindset really, really likes it when an apparent strongman is telling them what they want to hear. But sometimes, even the wimpiest panty-waist can be telling an objective truth at odds with your fondest desire. How are you supposed to figure it out? Who's just telling you what you want to hear, and who's giving you the straight scoop, even if that truth is ugly? It can be tough to tell, sometimes.
But at some point, you find out who was telling you the truth, and who was just bullshitting you. The question then becomes what do you do with this information? If you've read the story of Samson and Delilah in Judges 16, you might shake your head at Samson: Delilah deceives him over and over again, setting the Philistines on him each time. Each time, Samson whips the Philistines' asses. Delilah pouts that Samson doesn't trust her, and we're back at square one. Until Samson reveals the true secret of his strength to her. Then he's fucked, but good.
What are you miners going to do? Run back into the arms of Trump and Republicans again? Or try something else, even if you don't like the people bringing you the something new to try?
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Coal Miners Crushed As White House Admits Trump Lied About Bringing Back Coal Jobs [View all]
RKP5637
May 2017
OP
LITERALLY the first thing I thought and said aloud when I saw the headline. Very succinct,
Grown2Hate
May 2017
#143
If one wants to engage those morans, your message must fit on a bumper sticker.
Ligyron
May 2017
#177
But they also want them dead by taking away their health insurance and encouraging them to
kerry-is-my-prez
May 2017
#135
That's what really pisses me off. Their stupid arrogance and ignorance, proud of their
RKP5637
May 2017
#23
Yep! I can always understand people not knowing something. ... but then many people
RKP5637
May 2017
#34
Yep - get called an elitist all the time. I'm a freaking social worker making next to NOTHING.
kerry-is-my-prez
May 2017
#138
He didnt lead them off it they led themselves he just kicked their fingers free from the edge as
cstanleytech
May 2017
#44
It is easier to fool someone, than it is to convince someone they've been fooled
GeoWilliam750
May 2017
#67
I hope so! This just might be the pivot point this country needs for millions to wake the F up
RKP5637
May 2017
#28
Desperate people will believe what they want ...many have been left behind in the 'global '
Demsrule86
May 2017
#163
Having lived in many states...people in red areas don't get the news unless they watch cable and
Demsrule86
May 2017
#182
My hubs spent 30 years right out of college in autos...believe me I get it...Hillary was the first
Demsrule86
May 2017
#190
I dont think they will because to do that they would have to accept responsibility for
cstanleytech
May 2017
#47
A materials engineering friend of mine went through how reuseable ceramics are
Blue_true
May 2017
#134
And to add insult to injury, Obamacare ending means black lung benefits ending. Sorry, suckers.
Vinca
May 2017
#11
If any of them are still ALIVE in 2020, maybe they'll make a better choice.
NurseJackie
May 2017
#17
When those counties vote 90% Trump, I'm very sorry to say, but I'm not going to weep for them
alcibiades_mystery
May 2017
#22
Yep, that's probably what will happen. The truth will be withheld from them and some lies will
RKP5637
May 2017
#30
They would only believe it if Fox Spews reported it, otherwise it's "fake" news. Willfully ignorant!
FreeStateDemocrat
May 2017
#58
Flipped to Faux and they had short snippet rolling on the bottom re: Kushner but were whining
kerry-is-my-prez
May 2017
#141
Hillary communicated the truth to them and they hated her for telling the truth.
Blue_true
May 2017
#140
They don't believe us or facts. How do we do that? Only by being better propagandists & psyops.
kerry-is-my-prez
May 2017
#142
how come Black People aren't affected ? in fact it's only white people who fall for it
JI7
May 2017
#152
Yep, many may be so far at the end of their rope they decided it was Trump or nothing. He told
RKP5637
May 2017
#37
"Truth" is often a slippery concept in politics. Who decides what the truth is?
GliderGuider
May 2017
#91
We should be helping them by sending young Dems and Dems from local organizations to help
kerry-is-my-prez
May 2017
#144
I honestly think they will also I will be the powerball Saturday night and I will then be taking
cstanleytech
May 2017
#51
I'm starting to think it's a hard-wired brain function, they well might vote the same again,
RKP5637
May 2017
#52
Yes, but he told us he was the smartest person ever! FFS, people are soooooo stupid!!! n/t
RKP5637
May 2017
#77
I don't see that the 'crushed' coal miners know anything about what the WH said.
Shrike47
May 2017
#68
Seriously, did they think Dumpty was King Midas and going to put coal back in the mines. GAH
iluvtennis
May 2017
#72
Stupidity runs pretty deep in the US. I was really shocked when he kept saying this and they kept
RKP5637
May 2017
#76
I recall well my dad telling me when young two jobs never to get into, coal mining and farming. n/t
RKP5637
May 2017
#82
And, they still do it and are going to do it again in 2018 and 2020. They are such a deceitful bunch
RKP5637
May 2017
#87
Coal Miners Crushed As They Find Out That Bears Shit In The Woods, Instead Of In Little Spaceships..
TrollBuster9090
May 2017
#84
But they can't learn this, just WTF is wrong with them. It's incredible. What a bunch of suckers,
RKP5637
May 2017
#89
Hillary tried to be honest with them. They booed her and told her to never come back to W.VA.
nikibatts
May 2017
#96
Yep, they knew everything. They didn't want to hear the truth, much less take any corrective
RKP5637
May 2017
#98
Nah, he's one of the good guys, just ask Fox. He's just got a different style to him. n/t
RKP5637
May 2017
#99
At some point, a majority of them will be forced to admit they've been lied to by Trump
DFW
May 2017
#117
Yes, anger is a more powerful emotion ruling out logic in their case. They feed on anger. Many will
RKP5637
May 2017
#118
And I bet Trump considers them all losers! This thing called Trump is disgusting. n/t
RKP5637
May 2017
#171
I hope in these investigations the ass in the WH is forced to reveal his tax returns. There must
RKP5637
May 2017
#172
Coal miner tells MSNBC that Trump is going to bring back jobs and health care.
McCamy Taylor
May 2017
#147
It's hard to feel sorry when their decision is threatening my health coverage
Starry Messenger
May 2017
#162
"I like hard hats. Let's see if it's a hard hat. It's a hard hat! IT'S A HARD HAT!"
Miles Archer
May 2017
#164
Coal miners voting for trump is almost as stupid as breathing in coal dust all day
mdbl
May 2017
#175
"It was a rare moment of truth from the Trump administration that is likely to be walked back
red dog 1
May 2017
#186