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NNadir

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13. I really have no time whatsoever to brook a conversation about...
Mon May 15, 2023, 06:18 PM
May 2023

...how Fukushima is the worst disaster ever and dumb references to links placed by people who don't open science books.

Now, antinukes burning coal to wander insipidly to find such links, have been doing so since I've been here, for over 20 years.

In the last 20 years, the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste in the planetary atmosphere rose by over 50 ppm. Over 140 million people died from air pollution.

None of these people - they tend to show up and vanish regularly but there is very little difference between them - have ever given a shit about climate change; they do not care how many people die from fossil fuels; there's not one among them who even understands what, for example, PM2.5 is, or when a dibenzofuran is, things that actually kill people while plutonium, doesn't.

If I am expected to credit links from some barely literate sociologist at American University - reported by a journalist who obviously never passed a college physical science course with a grade of C or better - about the big, big, big, gigantic, super duper, incredibly terrifying fate of plutonium at Fukushima three, I cannot really be asked to take it seriously, can I?

A team of medical, epidemiological and other scientists far better educated than some dumb shit sociologist at American University who antinukes think important has recorded the death toll of risks on a planetary scale.

I link it often, and of course, people carrying on about Fukushima plutonium couldn't be diverted from their insipid obsessions long enough to read serious literature, but no matter:

It is here: Global burden of 87 risk factors in 204 countries and territories, 1990–2019: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2019 (Lancet Volume 396, Issue 10258, 17–23 October 2020, Pages 1223-1249). This study is a huge undertaking and the list of authors from around the world is rather long. These studies are always open sourced; and I invite people who want to carry on about Fukushima to open it and search the word "radiation." It appears once. Radon, a side product brought to the surface by fracking while we all wait for the grand so called "renewable energy" nirvana that did not come, is not here and won't come, appears however: Household radon, from the decay of natural uranium, which has been cycling through the environment ever since oxygen appeared in the Earth's atmosphere.

Here is what it says about air pollution deaths in the 2019 Global Burden of Disease Survey, if one is too busy to open it oneself because one is too busy carrying on about Fukushima:

The top five risks for attributable deaths for females were high SBP (5·25 million [95% UI 4·49–6·00] deaths, or 20·3% [17·5–22·9] of all female deaths in 2019), dietary risks (3·48 million [2·78–4·37] deaths, or 13·5% [10·8–16·7] of all female deaths in 2019), high FPG (3·09 million [2·40–3·98] deaths, or 11·9% [9·4–15·3] of all female deaths in 2019), air pollution (2·92 million [2·53–3·33] deaths or 11·3% [10·0–12·6] of all female deaths in 2019), and high BMI (2·54 million [1·68–3·56] deaths or 9·8% [6·5–13·7] of all female deaths in 2019). For males, the top five risks differed slightly. In 2019, the leading Level 2 risk factor for attributable deaths globally in males was tobacco (smoked, second-hand, and chewing), which accounted for 6·56 million (95% UI 6·02–7·10) deaths (21·4% [20·5–22·3] of all male deaths in 2019), followed by high SBP, which accounted for 5·60 million (4·90–6·29) deaths (18·2% [16·2–20·1] of all male deaths in 2019). The third largest Level 2 risk factor for attributable deaths among males in 2019 was dietary risks (4·47 million [3·65–5·45] deaths, or 14·6% [12·0–17·6] of all male deaths in 2019) followed by air pollution (ambient particulate matter and ambient ozone pollution, accounting for 3·75 million [3·31–4·24] deaths (12·2% [11·0–13·4] of all male deaths in 2019), and then high FPG (3·14 million [2·70–4·34] deaths, or 11·1% [8·9–14·1] of all male deaths in 2019).



Now, I'm fully aware that there are people with educations so poor that they think that mentioning the world "plutonium" should incite homicidal paroxysms of fear and ignorance - and that's what they are, homicidal, since nuclear energy saves lives - just as there are people who think the word "vaccine" should inspire homicidal paroxysms of fear and ignorance.

Like I say, antinukes have killed more people than antivaxxers, as the above referenced account clearly shows.

I spend my life in the primary scientific literature, both for my professional life as well as for my concern about the state of the environment. If working at serious accumulation of knowledge results in being classified as "condescending" I really can't help it.

I cannot hold any respect for anyone carrying on about Fukushima as if it outweighs the destruction of the planetary atmosphere.

Do I make myself clear?

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Another serious cluster-F the world ignored. Irish_Dem May 2023 #1
I have never been able to understand why we build nuclear power plants next to the oceans. Lasher May 2023 #2
The San Onofre state beach has 3.6 million pounds of nuclear waste buried underneath it, a byproduct womanofthehills May 2023 #3
Shouldn't the release be reviewed by the IAEA or some other body with deep expertise? JudyM May 2023 #4
"saying it's an unavoidable step" - no, just the less expensive step NullTuples May 2023 #5
So, expect massive marine animal kills there Bayard May 2023 #6
There won't be marine animal kills from this release NickB79 May 2023 #7
It will probably be beneficial to marine life if it discourages fishing. hunter May 2023 #17
How come nobody ever visits a coal plant before it releases stuff that's actually harmful? NNadir May 2023 #8
We are basically screwed- even our own military is a huge polluter womanofthehills May 2023 #15
Whatever happened to the Fukushima Unit 3 plutonium? Kid Berwyn May 2023 #9
It wiped out the planet. Everybody on Earth died. Thank God that our antinukes were right... NNadir May 2023 #11
So, no answer about plutonium. Why so condescending? Kid Berwyn May 2023 #12
I really have no time whatsoever to brook a conversation about... NNadir May 2023 #13
Still zip on plutonium. Thanks on the stats! Kid Berwyn May 2023 #14
I really have no time or interest in learning about antinukes. NNadir May 2023 #16
How much plutonium does it take to overdose a person? Kid Berwyn May 2023 #20
I used to be an anti-nuclear activist, and a radical one at that. hunter May 2023 #18
Tsunami was horrific. So is an atmosphere contaminated with radioactive dust. Kid Berwyn May 2023 #22
I don't automatically respect anyone's religious views. hunter May 2023 #23
Corporate media seldom mention plutonium or Karen Silkwood. Kid Berwyn May 2023 #24
Either slagged in the bottom of the reactor, or washed out to sea NickB79 May 2023 #19
And to the four winds. Kid Berwyn May 2023 #21
We've scattered 3.5 tons of plutonium across the planet from 1945-1990 NickB79 May 2023 #25
iijio Martinez8889 May 2023 #10
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