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RussBLib

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Wed Sep 18, 2024, 10:25 AM Sep 18

Israel Planted Explosives in Pagers Sold to Hezbollah, Officials Say [View all]

Source: New York Times

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Small amounts of explosive were implanted in beepers that Hezbollah had ordered from a Taiwanese company, according to American and other officials briefed on the operation.

Israel carried out its operation against Hezbollah on Tuesday by hiding explosive material within a new batch of Taiwanese-made pagers imported into Lebanon, according to American and other officials briefed on the operation.

The pagers, which Hezbollah had ordered from Gold Apollo in Taiwan, had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon, according to some of the officials. Most were the company’s AR924 model, though three other Gold Apollo models were also included i

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Up to 3,000 people have been injured ColinC Sep 18 #1
I suppose RussBLib Sep 18 #2
Yep ColinC Sep 18 #4
Harmed by communications devices intended and distribured by Hezbollah for the exclusive use of its operatives. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Sep 19 #68
If the terrorist group Hezbollah had not been firing missiles into Israel at civilians, former9thward Sep 18 #12
I don't know that. But I do know if pagers were not laced with explosives and exploded in heavily civilian areas ColinC Sep 18 #13
Which leads back to the fact the if Hizbollah hadn't been firing missiles into Israel, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #17
Sounds eerily like "if the US did not invade Muslim territories, 9/11 would not have happened" ColinC Sep 18 #19
We invaded Muslim territories before 9/11? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #21
Regardless of the semantics, he did it because of specific military actions that he felt warranted it ColinC Sep 18 #25
Regardless of the semantics? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #27
Kuwait was an invasion, and among those referenced by Bin Laden for his war against the US ColinC Sep 18 #28
Desert Storm, which I participated in, was a operation to liberate a Muslim MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #31
Semantics... sarisataka Sep 18 #34
Oh no I agree with you. Bin Laden didn't. ColinC Sep 18 #35
Well that makes no sense... DiamondShark Sep 19 #69
You do know that Desert Shield/Desert Storm was before the 9/11 attacks don't you? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 19 #71
Still, doesn't make sense considering the context... DiamondShark Sep 19 #78
Ok, and...........? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 19 #79
I guess we will never know... DiamondShark Sep 19 #80
Fair enough, although, I still don't get it. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 19 #81
Agreed. DiamondShark Sep 19 #83
Quite the conundrum I agree. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 19 #84
Bombing civilians with pagers? sarisataka Sep 18 #29
In my view Hezbollah was a tiny minority of the people injured by those explosions. ColinC Sep 18 #30
Not according to Lebanese media, government and Hezbollah sarisataka Sep 18 #32
Perhaps my view is incorrect. Do you have a link? ColinC Sep 18 #36
CNN video report from the American University of Beirut Medical Center sarisataka Sep 18 #39
Thank you! Although I am interested mostly in the identities of the 2800 injuries ColinC Sep 18 #41
No one in Lebanon, including Hezbollah is claiming many civilian casulaties sarisataka Sep 18 #42
I am claiming civilians were majority of those injured. Not killed. ColinC Sep 18 #45
No. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #46
So then who were the 2800 injured? You are telling me the vast majority were Hezbollah? ColinC Sep 18 #47
No, do the math sarisataka Sep 18 #48
So far two of the 12 people were children killed ColinC Sep 18 #50
I am glad we agree on a high level of discrimination sarisataka Sep 18 #52
Civilians working for Hezbollah linked organizations are civilians. ColinC Sep 18 #53
Point of fact- in the 9/11 attacks sarisataka Sep 18 #54
I recc'd this post because I appreciate the consistency of your argument ColinC Sep 18 #56
We argee to disagree- fair enough sarisataka Sep 18 #58
We do! And I have no faith that any of these issues can be resolved unless she is elected ColinC Sep 18 #64
Terrorists working within Hezbollah also are civilians. While Hezbollah has politicians who are elected to and 24601 Sep 19 #73
This is a generally informative post and I appreciate you for sharing it ColinC Sep 19 #74
Glad to help keep the dialog going. Sorry it too so long to post - after composing a draft, I removed information for 24601 Sep 19 #75
No worries! I wish people took the time to be more informed about how this stuff works ColinC Sep 19 #76
Really? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #33
I don't. That's just the assumption I made from the 3,000 injured. ColinC Sep 18 #38
See post #39. nt. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #40
From the AP ColinC Sep 18 #49
How does any of it confirm your assumptions? Beastly Boy Sep 18 #61
2 dead were healthcare workers and 2 were children ColinC Sep 18 #62
There is no evidence for anything. Absence of evidence does not constitute evidence to the contrary. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #65
I don't understand your reference to Nasrallah (or what they are) ColinC Sep 18 #66
He is the dude who gives orders. Link inside. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #67
Battle of Derna in 1805? JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 18 #57
Point taken. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #59
Do you also know that if the pagers were not exclusively distributed to Hezbollah operatives Beastly Boy Sep 18 #60
Given the circumstances... DiamondShark Sep 19 #70
With pleasure Beastly Boy Sep 19 #72
I will try to be more specific... DiamondShark Sep 19 #82
The circmstances surrounding the purchase and distribution of the pagers, according to the Heabollah source: Beastly Boy Sep 19 #85
As long as we are still speculating... DiamondShark Sep 21 #86
I am not sure what you want me to back up or what a declaration of war has to do with it. Beastly Boy Sep 21 #87
Yeah, I'm lost. DiamondShark Sep 21 #88
A military unit doesn't gain or lose its designation whether there us war or not. Beastly Boy Sep 21 #89
Interesting... DiamondShark Sep 21 #90
Why do yoiu keep asking for a link to something that Beastly Boy Sep 21 #91
I don't know why you keep avoiding the war question... DiamondShark Sep 22 #92
What Is Straw Man Fallacy? Definition & Example Beastly Boy Sep 22 #93
You got it right with person one. DiamondShark Sep 22 #94
"Is there a war or not?" EX500rider Sep 22 #95
Right... DiamondShark Sep 22 #96
A act of war usually unless some type of lone wolf terrorists op EX500rider Sep 22 #97
Your justification is also Al Qaedas justification for 9/11 ColinC Sep 18 #16
See post #21. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #22
The means used to inflict injuries were military assets intended for exclusive use by Hezbollah operatives. Beastly Boy Sep 18 #51
So these pagers were ordered from a reputable company in Taiwan, sent to Lebanon to Hezbollah where did the explosives Srkdqltr Sep 18 #3
Took time to Open each and every one. Srkdqltr Sep 18 #6
Mossad is patient AZSkiffyGeek Sep 18 #7
What does that mean? That doesn't come close to what i asked. Srkdqltr Sep 18 #9
How long does it take for a ship to sail from Taiwan to the mediterranian sea? Beastly Boy Sep 18 #63
Probably in between, as in the shipment was intercepted Polybius Sep 18 #8
So the company sent them to someplace? where someone? put the stuff in and sent them to Lebanon Srkdqltr Sep 18 #11
Perhaps the Mossad intercepted the packages when they were on route Polybius Sep 18 #18
What is the delivery window on an order for 3000 pagers sarisataka Sep 18 #20
It was a long ride on the cargo ship FakeNoose Sep 18 #26
Cargo containers can be on several ships before reaching its final destination. Turbineguy Sep 19 #77
Lots of middlemen leading to gray market customer give many openings to a "supply chain attack." Eugene Sep 18 #10
It's amazing how moreland01 Sep 18 #5
Indeed. Do we need tanks? RussBLib Sep 18 #37
TY for the gift link Hekate Sep 18 #14
Did hezbollah get a discount? Mysterian Sep 18 #15
And are they now demanding a full refund? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 18 #23
That's some dark humor RussBLib Sep 18 #24
They're gonna leave a bad review JoseBalow Sep 18 #44
Frontline workers described hellish scenes: victims of thousands of small explosions Beringia Sep 18 #43
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