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ColinC

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50. So far two of the 12 people were children killed
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:46 PM
Sep 2024

2 were healthcare workers.


That already shows a high level of in discrimination in the attacks even if the majority killed were militants (which we now know probably were not)

The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby.

While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community.

At least two health workers were among those killed Tuesday. Doctors, nurses, paramedics, charity workers, teachers and office administrators work for Hezbollah-linked organizations, and an unknown number had pagers.



https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah-syria-ce6af3c2e6de0a0dddfae48634278288

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Up to 3,000 people have been injured ColinC Sep 2024 #1
I suppose RussBLib Sep 2024 #2
Yep ColinC Sep 2024 #4
Harmed by communications devices intended and distribured by Hezbollah for the exclusive use of its operatives. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Sep 2024 #68
If the terrorist group Hezbollah had not been firing missiles into Israel at civilians, former9thward Sep 2024 #12
I don't know that. But I do know if pagers were not laced with explosives and exploded in heavily civilian areas ColinC Sep 2024 #13
Which leads back to the fact the if Hizbollah hadn't been firing missiles into Israel, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #17
Sounds eerily like "if the US did not invade Muslim territories, 9/11 would not have happened" ColinC Sep 2024 #19
We invaded Muslim territories before 9/11? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #21
Regardless of the semantics, he did it because of specific military actions that he felt warranted it ColinC Sep 2024 #25
Regardless of the semantics? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #27
Kuwait was an invasion, and among those referenced by Bin Laden for his war against the US ColinC Sep 2024 #28
Desert Storm, which I participated in, was a operation to liberate a Muslim MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #31
Semantics... sarisataka Sep 2024 #34
Oh no I agree with you. Bin Laden didn't. ColinC Sep 2024 #35
Well that makes no sense... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #69
You do know that Desert Shield/Desert Storm was before the 9/11 attacks don't you? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #71
Still, doesn't make sense considering the context... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #78
Ok, and...........? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #79
I guess we will never know... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #80
Fair enough, although, I still don't get it. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #81
Agreed. DiamondShark Sep 2024 #83
Quite the conundrum I agree. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #84
Bombing civilians with pagers? sarisataka Sep 2024 #29
In my view Hezbollah was a tiny minority of the people injured by those explosions. ColinC Sep 2024 #30
Not according to Lebanese media, government and Hezbollah sarisataka Sep 2024 #32
Perhaps my view is incorrect. Do you have a link? ColinC Sep 2024 #36
CNN video report from the American University of Beirut Medical Center sarisataka Sep 2024 #39
Thank you! Although I am interested mostly in the identities of the 2800 injuries ColinC Sep 2024 #41
No one in Lebanon, including Hezbollah is claiming many civilian casulaties sarisataka Sep 2024 #42
I am claiming civilians were majority of those injured. Not killed. ColinC Sep 2024 #45
No. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #46
So then who were the 2800 injured? You are telling me the vast majority were Hezbollah? ColinC Sep 2024 #47
No, do the math sarisataka Sep 2024 #48
So far two of the 12 people were children killed ColinC Sep 2024 #50
I am glad we agree on a high level of discrimination sarisataka Sep 2024 #52
Civilians working for Hezbollah linked organizations are civilians. ColinC Sep 2024 #53
Point of fact- in the 9/11 attacks sarisataka Sep 2024 #54
I recc'd this post because I appreciate the consistency of your argument ColinC Sep 2024 #56
We argee to disagree- fair enough sarisataka Sep 2024 #58
We do! And I have no faith that any of these issues can be resolved unless she is elected ColinC Sep 2024 #64
Terrorists working within Hezbollah also are civilians. While Hezbollah has politicians who are elected to and 24601 Sep 2024 #73
This is a generally informative post and I appreciate you for sharing it ColinC Sep 2024 #74
Glad to help keep the dialog going. Sorry it too so long to post - after composing a draft, I removed information for 24601 Sep 2024 #75
No worries! I wish people took the time to be more informed about how this stuff works ColinC Sep 2024 #76
Really? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #33
I don't. That's just the assumption I made from the 3,000 injured. ColinC Sep 2024 #38
See post #39. nt. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #40
From the AP ColinC Sep 2024 #49
How does any of it confirm your assumptions? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #61
2 dead were healthcare workers and 2 were children ColinC Sep 2024 #62
There is no evidence for anything. Absence of evidence does not constitute evidence to the contrary. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #65
I don't understand your reference to Nasrallah (or what they are) ColinC Sep 2024 #66
He is the dude who gives orders. Link inside. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #67
Battle of Derna in 1805? JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2024 #57
Point taken. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #59
Do you also know that if the pagers were not exclusively distributed to Hezbollah operatives Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #60
Given the circumstances... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #70
With pleasure Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #72
I will try to be more specific... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #82
The circmstances surrounding the purchase and distribution of the pagers, according to the Heabollah source: Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #85
As long as we are still speculating... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #86
I am not sure what you want me to back up or what a declaration of war has to do with it. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #87
Yeah, I'm lost. DiamondShark Sep 2024 #88
A military unit doesn't gain or lose its designation whether there us war or not. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #89
Interesting... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #90
Why do yoiu keep asking for a link to something that Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #91
I don't know why you keep avoiding the war question... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #92
What Is Straw Man Fallacy? Definition & Example Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #93
You got it right with person one. DiamondShark Sep 2024 #94
"Is there a war or not?" EX500rider Sep 2024 #95
Right... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #96
A act of war usually unless some type of lone wolf terrorists op EX500rider Sep 2024 #97
Your justification is also Al Qaedas justification for 9/11 ColinC Sep 2024 #16
See post #21. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #22
The means used to inflict injuries were military assets intended for exclusive use by Hezbollah operatives. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #51
So these pagers were ordered from a reputable company in Taiwan, sent to Lebanon to Hezbollah where did the explosives Srkdqltr Sep 2024 #3
Took time to Open each and every one. Srkdqltr Sep 2024 #6
Mossad is patient AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2024 #7
What does that mean? That doesn't come close to what i asked. Srkdqltr Sep 2024 #9
How long does it take for a ship to sail from Taiwan to the mediterranian sea? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #63
Probably in between, as in the shipment was intercepted Polybius Sep 2024 #8
So the company sent them to someplace? where someone? put the stuff in and sent them to Lebanon Srkdqltr Sep 2024 #11
Perhaps the Mossad intercepted the packages when they were on route Polybius Sep 2024 #18
What is the delivery window on an order for 3000 pagers sarisataka Sep 2024 #20
It was a long ride on the cargo ship FakeNoose Sep 2024 #26
Cargo containers can be on several ships before reaching its final destination. Turbineguy Sep 2024 #77
Lots of middlemen leading to gray market customer give many openings to a "supply chain attack." Eugene Sep 2024 #10
It's amazing how moreland01 Sep 2024 #5
Indeed. Do we need tanks? RussBLib Sep 2024 #37
TY for the gift link Hekate Sep 2024 #14
Did hezbollah get a discount? Mysterian Sep 2024 #15
And are they now demanding a full refund? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #23
That's some dark humor RussBLib Sep 2024 #24
They're gonna leave a bad review JoseBalow Sep 2024 #44
Frontline workers described hellish scenes: victims of thousands of small explosions Beringia Sep 2024 #43
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