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LiberalLovinLug

(14,383 posts)
60. There used to be other left of center choices
Sun Sep 29, 2024, 07:53 PM
Sep 29

I used to have my AM radio tuned into KGO in Oakland in the evening to hear Ray Talliaferro. Before that I also listened to the disgraced Bernie Ward. (such a shame). It was kind of fun to hear the end of Gene Burns show, a right wing talk show, and the friendly banter between Ray and Gene in the transition moments before Ray's show. Nice to hear left and right hosts get along back then.

I guess I was in a category of absorbers of information that wanted to know all the faults of both the left and the right. Of Democrats and Republicans. Always with the knowledge from my lifetime of absorption of politics that the Democratic party was the ONLY sane choice.
And IMO the label "purists" could also apply, from a different angle, to Democrats who didn't want to hear any criticism, even if warranted. I never understood that mentality, as I think criticism from the left actually helps. And I think someone like Sanders and now AOC, and other progressives, and any popularity they build, does actually make a difference, and made a difference in Joe Biden's boldness in embracing a more progressive agenda.

Now do some voices go too far at times? Yes. Ana from the TYT is driving me crazy lately with her Biden bashing because of his enabling of Bibi's war machine. She actually said last time I listened to her how Biden has done "nothing". Really?

But there's a danger in demonizing other left of center voices because they are uncomfortably too far over. I think the left eats the left much more voraciously than the right does the right. And because of the uneven playing field in money to buy media platforms and or control the message on them, I have to welcome any and all voices from the left. And rely on my own internal filter to know when to disregard information.


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Flies do not get distracted. They know what they like and focus in. Attilatheblond Sep 29 #1
That's true. Our cat keeps the house clear of insects and spiders. yardwork Sep 29 #5
I think it's time to move past "not normal." He's senile. We need to use the "TOO OLD" meme in ads mpcamb Sep 29 #57
Are you old enough to remember the Memorex cassett tape ads? 'Is it live or is it Memorex?' Attilatheblond Sep 29 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 29 #2
This guy knows BaronChocula Sep 29 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 29 #53
And they will still vote for him. How many, though, hope for him to step down and will be happy question everything Sep 29 #3
Difference is Trump is distracted by flies SomedayKindaLove Sep 29 #4
Was it wearing a tiny little Kamala sign? Bayard Sep 29 #6
Thom Hartmann mentioned this technique he thinks tRump is using yaesu Sep 29 #7
I hope that Hartmann is not trying to contribute to "sane-washing" 45 BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #8
NEVER underestimate an enemy! With that said you should already know that Hartmann is the leading progressive yaesu Sep 29 #9
And was also working for RT for 7 years BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #10
Post removed Post removed Sep 29 #13
Bashing a well know progressive? not good. nt yaesu Sep 29 #16
ThomHartman is still a DUer unc70 Sep 29 #21
Who cares? Doesnt immunize him from criticism. oldsoftie Sep 29 #31
"why would ANY storyteller want to confuse their audience. " LiberalLovinLug Sep 29 #49
I guess I shouldve said "anyone except trump"! Because they'll love it regardless. oldsoftie Sep 29 #52
Actually dissing Thom is a russian tatic. That rant is about as old as the bible. nt yaesu Sep 29 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Sep 29 #24
You weren't here under Obama BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #25
Forgive me if I'm reading you incorrectly, but i disagree that it was wrong for Thom and others to use RT LiberalLovinLug Sep 29 #50
Part of my reasoning to subbing to what was originally XM BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #54
Thanks for the background info. LiberalLovinLug Sep 29 #56
I sub to Mother Jones BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #58
There used to be other left of center choices LiberalLovinLug Sep 29 #60
"the disgraced Bernie Ward" BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #62
"where the likes of an AOC and a Dick Cheney, can agree on the same thing" LiberalLovinLug Sep 29 #65
LOL. According to whom? "Thom" himself? Too many rubles in his bank account to suit me. PSPS Sep 29 #14
He sure gets under your skin, doesn't he? yaesu Sep 29 #17
2 put on my full ignore list in one post, a new record! yaesu Sep 29 #19
Yes asm128 Sep 29 #23
And another propagandist is put on ignore! canuckledragger Sep 29 #27
# 3 on full ignore, thank you!!! yaesu Sep 29 #41
Oh bullshit. He's RAMBLING nothing more. oldsoftie Sep 29 #30
I tend to agree that tRumps brain is too washed up to handle any speaking plan. I mean, he's talking to flies now lol. n yaesu Sep 29 #43
And they STILL cheer oldsoftie Sep 29 #45
No. Hartman is wrong. Tsf is just vomiting idiocy Scrivener7 Sep 29 #37
Hartmann tends to overcomplicate things. TwilightZone Sep 29 #38
I agree with this and I think on this point he's doing just that as tRump could never handle such an intricate plan. nt yaesu Sep 29 #42
Sounds like another form of hypnotism Nasruddin Sep 29 #47
"this is not normal" says a media personality while they continue to treat it as such. PSPS Sep 29 #11
Overcome by his own fumes. Oh the humanity. twodogsbarking Sep 29 #12
Could it be a descendant of the Mike Pence fly? Wicked Blue Sep 29 #18
Wow...there it is...! nickster48 Sep 29 #20
There was no fly. twodogsbarking Sep 29 #22
Forget border wall, America needs to build a dome to keep out flies IronLionZion Sep 29 #26
Biden had one solution BumRushDaShow Sep 29 #39
To be fair angrychair Sep 29 #28
I think he's making a reference to immigrants and insinuating they bring flies with them when they move north to the US jalan48 Sep 29 #29
That makes sense coming from him. His audience is too stupid to grasp it tho oldsoftie Sep 29 #32
I think many Maggots pick up on it honestly. They are really tuned into their racism. jalan48 Sep 29 #35
I guarantee he intended that as a slam on immigrants intrepidity Sep 29 #33
JFC, people vote for this trash? Aviation Pro Sep 29 #34
"Trump was on stage at Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, making a point about a hat..." BadgerMom Sep 29 #36
Exhausted? Distracted? peggysue2 Sep 29 #40
Trump gets a fly, Bernie got a dove... malthaussen Sep 29 #44
If a small thing has the power to annoy you BWdem4life Sep 29 #46
🪰 IrishAfricanAmerican Sep 29 #48
Dump needs a rapid diaper change Blue Owl Sep 29 #55
"Not normal..." myohmy2 Sep 29 #59
A descendant of Pence's debate fly? IzzaNuDay Sep 29 #61
Good! The fly disguise works! Aussie105 Sep 29 #64
Kick BlueWavePsych Sep 30 #66
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