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88. This is still being debated...

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #85)

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 12:32 PM

Dec 4

the Supreme Court's opinion stated that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it,"

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Donald Trump Pardon Supported by Top Democrat [View all] David Boyle Dec 4 OP

:/ C Moon Dec 4 #1

That's one way to put it David Boyle Dec 4 #2

Oh, and: contact info; my other post on this David Boyle Dec 4 #35

FUCK THAT AZ8theist Dec 4 #3

To be fair... FBaggins Dec 4 #15

I am with you choie Dec 4 #20

You're about to leave the party? Where ya gonna go? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 4 #24

Yeah, I was going to say.. There's way More Good Cha Dec 4 #97

Whoooooo David Boyle Dec 4 #103

Cyburn, heh David Boyle Dec 4 #25

Is it me, or are folks just reading the immunity ruling wrongly and giving Trump a pass at everything when it does not Jit423 Dec 5 #140

You (and I) are correct, it was supposed to mean things done while performing presidential duties - last time Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 5 #141

Multiverse of Matt Gaetz David Boyle Dec 5 #144

Absolutely Rebl2 Dec 5 #145

While I reserve the right to change my mind; Oh, HELL NO! electric_blue68 Dec 4 #4

5-nuke post David Boyle Dec 4 #26

Well, the man's a horror show. And we're about to get "Season 2"! electric_blue68 Dec 4 #89

What? Are you an idiot Clyburn? tornado34jh Dec 4 #5

WTAF Karma13612 Dec 4 #6

Yes, official/unofficial distinction David Boyle Dec 4 #43

Sorry I didn't come back to you sooner! Karma13612 Dec 10 #146

Tryin'! David Boyle Dec 10 #147

WTF ??? SamKnause Dec 4 #7

"Disappointment Dems" David Boyle Dec 4 #28

My first reaction was no way in hell. Lonestarblue Dec 4 #8

The fact that he won't be held accountable choie Dec 4 #18

He will say he was exonerated like he has done all the other times. travelingthrulife Dec 4 #52

You have a point FalloutShelter Dec 4 #60

Accepting a pardon is NOT an admission of guilt. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 4 #85

This is still being debated... FalloutShelter Dec 4 #88

Clyburn is folding in advance, giving up based on presumptions. He is wrong Bernardo de La Paz Dec 4 #9

Never obey in advance I_UndergroundPanther Dec 4 #27

Exactly. FM123 Dec 4 #74

Ford's pardon of Nixon enabled tRump. Not again. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 4 #10

If they want to keep losing this would be the way. nt RandiFan1290 Dec 4 #11

This operates as if tRump would accept MaineBlueBear Dec 4 #12

He doesn't have to accept/reject it FBaggins Dec 4 #17

So let him pardon himself choie Dec 4 #19

I suspect he pardoned himself in 2021 MaineBlueBear Dec 4 #96

! David Boyle Dec 4 #105

This exactly why Democrats lose. ramedy Dec 4 #13

Fascist sympathizers crawling out from under their desk. Where is the resistance to fascism from our team?????? Hotler Dec 4 #14

OMG - elected Democrats are going into mega-kumbaya mode. NO! NO PARDONS FOR TRUMP! Vinca Dec 4 #16

Tired of all of the Icanthinkformyself Dec 4 #21

Yes and I have little doubt that Clyburn and Manchin moniss Dec 4 #22

As I understand it, Trump is immune from official acts. everyonematters Dec 4 #23

I can't say what I think should happen... returnee Dec 4 #29

NO times a million!!! lark Dec 4 #30

WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE SAY THIS?? LymphocyteLover Dec 4 #31

That's what I want to know. Mike 03 Dec 4 #77

'Legend' or not.... Quanto Magnus Dec 4 #90

Ford pardoned Nixon rambler_american Dec 4 #32

absolutely fucking not. barbtries Dec 4 #38

Apart from the ridiculous idea here, I don't think he is right about what SCOTUS said LymphocyteLover Dec 4 #33

Well, did anybody Traildogbob Dec 4 #34

"Democratic Rep. James Clyburn has said he supports President Joe Biden pardoning Donald Trump" Ray Bruns Dec 4 #36

What. barbtries Dec 4 #37

Hopefully just Clyburn David Boyle Dec 4 #41

WEAKSAUCE HYPOCRISY! spudspud Dec 4 #39

Better spuds than weak sauce David Boyle Dec 4 #40

A normal person might see a pardon as a peace offering no matter how morally wrong it would be to do it. hadEnuf Dec 4 #42

What is wrong with these fools??? travelingthrulife Dec 4 #44

He wouldn't need a pardon if he weren't a criminal IronLionZion Dec 4 #45

Losing the election wasn't enough? sellitman Dec 4 #46

Clyburn is messing with people, don't BootinUp Dec 4 #47

What do you mean? David Boyle Dec 4 #51

I missed one word but it should be readable, lol BootinUp Dec 4 #54

Don't laugh, but David Boyle Dec 4 #57

I fixed it already. Nt BootinUp Dec 4 #59

Thx David Boyle Dec 4 #62

I sure wish you would expand on this. Mike 03 Dec 4 #79

Briefly BootinUp Dec 4 #86

I sort of agree -misanthroptimist Dec 4 #48

Rec for thoughtfulness, even if one disagrees David Boyle Dec 4 #53

Two points: -misanthroptimist Dec 4 #71

Oh, I think I get it Mike 03 Dec 4 #82

You got it. -misanthroptimist Dec 4 #95

NO! PortTack Dec 4 #49

F**K this bullshit. The sociopath tried to overthrow the government for gosh sakes. Between those Democrats upset JohnSJ Dec 4 #50

With "leadership" like this... Wuddles440 Dec 4 #55

Is this a good idea? ColinC Dec 4 #56

Not A Good Idea! Aviation91 Dec 4 #58

Clyburn must either be a moron or a coward if he thinks that Biden pardoning Trump, the insurrectionist, is reasonable. xocetaceans Dec 4 #61

Trumputinmusk David Boyle Dec 4 #69

Another shooting ourselves in the foot moment! bluestarone Dec 4 #63

Hurtin' your head there! David Boyle Dec 4 #65

FFS Easterncedar Dec 4 #64

No Dem4life1970 Dec 4 #66

Yes, and not even all official acts are immune, David Boyle Dec 4 #67

Nope. Not a chance in hell that I would support that. City Lights Dec 4 #68

Trump will fuck the country if he doesn't get off. Turbineguy Dec 4 #70

Democratic Rep. James Clyburn is a freaking idiot...yet again. NotHardly Dec 4 #72

Another one that thinks if he sucks up to the convicted felon republianmushroom Dec 4 #73

That's Some Strange Logic RobinA Dec 4 #75

He is wrong... kirby Dec 4 #76

Joe Biden is NOT going to pardon Trump. dchill Dec 4 #78

Call him J-9 Dec 4 #107

Or use the link I provided... David Boyle Dec 4 #108

F NO! berksdem Dec 4 #80

No way. A president insurrectionist. No. Bluethroughu Dec 4 #81

Hmmm... When Political People Change Course Drastically, It Usually Boils Down To... hotellanai1986 Dec 4 #83

Blackmail... maybe David Boyle Dec 4 #94

Fuck that shit AKwannabe Dec 4 #84

WTF is wrong with these people? doc03 Dec 4 #87

Force the mo fo to pardon himself. kerouac2 Dec 4 #91

Letting election stealing Bush brothers off the hook GoreWon2000 Dec 4 #92

Ridiculous. n/t malthaussen Dec 4 #93

Glad he's not repping me. Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 4 #98

E.g., "YAAAAGH!!" David Boyle Dec 4 #101

That and I'd be voting for his opponent come primary time. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 5 #129

If the thought is Mz Pip Dec 4 #99

Ding-ding-ding! You get the prize!! David Boyle Dec 4 #100

Pardon him? Omnipresent Dec 4 #102

Magic wand David Boyle Dec 4 #106

Look what Ford brought us by pardoning Nixon. nt doc03 Dec 4 #104

It brought us Jimmy Carter. 24601 Dec 5 #134

No Trump doc03 Dec 5 #135

Can you lay out a reasonable cause and effect? The 1976 election was sufficiently close to infer that the Nixon pardon 24601 Dec 5 #138

I think not prosicuting Nixon for his crimes doc03 Dec 5 #139

Absolutely no pardon for Trump. LiberalFighter Dec 4 #109

Oh hell to the no, Clyburn! IzzaNuDay Dec 4 #110

Donald Trump - Don Tr - DoTard David Boyle Dec 4 #111

Kim Jong Un started using dotard back in 2017 IzzaNuDay Dec 4 #114

"Good taste" David Boyle Dec 5 #115

The time to dangle a pardon was Deminpenn Dec 4 #112

What about graft? David Boyle Dec 5 #116

Secondary, imho Deminpenn Dec 5 #136

But he can graft bigger 'n better as Prez! David Boyle Dec 5 #143

Here is the pardon which POTUS Joseph R. Biden can read aloud on international TV: C0RI0LANUS Dec 4 #113

Nice job David Boyle Dec 5 #117

Thanks, Dave. Note Pres. Biden included 'graft' in the hypothetical pardon. C0RI0LANUS Dec 5 #118

Trumpoleon - heh David Boyle Dec 5 #121

Not too bad, Dave! C0RI0LANUS Dec 5 #123

Just thinking - maybe Trump is sorta like Shakespeare's... David Boyle Dec 5 #124

Good point, Dave, but Coriolanus lead Volscians against Rome and repented at the end of the play. C0RI0LANUS Dec 5 #127

How many pictures do you have? David Boyle Dec 5 #130

A bagful. C0RI0LANUS Dec 5 #132

Looks like it David Boyle Dec 5 #133

Trumpf is more akin to vile Richard III or treacherous MacBeth usurping the throne, but your point is well made. C0RI0LANUS Dec 5 #137

Gandalf the Black David Boyle Dec 5 #142

No! Startint Dec 5 #120

Ten-Four, the pardon is not going to happen. But, did you read the hypothetical pardon I drafted? C0RI0LANUS Dec 5 #125

Fun pardon David Boyle Dec 5 #126

Meh. Startint Dec 5 #119

Clockburn - heh David Boyle Dec 5 #122

"Top Democrat" when? Where?! live love laugh Dec 5 #128

F U C K. N O MFM008 Dec 5 #131

What a Crock! NowsTheTime Dec 10 #148

And not even something you can drink! David Boyle Dec 10 #149

At least Clyburn isn't trying to put out the Sun David Boyle Dec 13 #150

Time for Clyburn to hang it up. Sounds like he has Stockholm Syndrome like Fetterman. Hassler Dec 13 #151

"Stockholm Cly" David Boyle Dec 13 #152

Stolen classified documents!! mymomwasright Dec 13 #153

You and your mom are right! David Boyle Dec 13 #154

HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS MORON GONNA GET HEADLINES? Xoan Dec 13 #155

MORan MORe David Boyle Dec 13 #156