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karynnj

(59,942 posts)
13. I am not playing this game
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:04 PM
Apr 2017

I could find any number of asinine comments that call Obama everything in the book. The same goes for Biden -- and he was trashed even on DU when he considered running. No, I will not post them here.

Not to mention, NONE of these 3 men will run again - and their reputations will not be determined by people throwing mud on boards.

As to anti war -- John Kerry -- and Obama very likely avoided what would have been a devastating war - with Kerry's Iran deal. Obviously this is Obama's top foreign policy accomplishment and what is completely true is that from the begining in 2009 Kerry was the one who made the connections and who was the main advocate. Fro the year and a half when negotiations continued, Obama gave Kerry permission to work on this - but distanced himself by saying that it was more likely not to succeed.

In addition, Obama's other possility for his top diplomatic achievement is the US/China climate pact and the Paris Accord and other environmental agreements after that. Here, Kerry was told when he spoke to Obama to become SoS, that a diplomatic accomplishment on this issue which he wanted as his signature issue - like women's issues were for Clinto- was unlikely. Kerry had worked with the Chinese for decades on this at various conferences -- and he got the essential US/China deal that allowed him to make Lima a success and to get nearly 200 countries to sign on.

Kerry was on Obama's team and likely helped Obama's legacy more than any other person - including Biden. I honestly do not get why you regularly come here to attack Kerry. Imagine that Kerry had not been SoS, it is very likely that NEITHER the Iran Deal or the Paris Accord would have succeeded. Kerry really was that unigue and skilled. Obama's domestic accomplishments would still have made him a very good President, but adding these two big deal accomplishments likely makes him a great President.

Also note that both of these - especially Iran - involved political capital, which Obama used giving Kerry a green light to get the deals. He would not have done this if he did not trust Kerry.

I visited... YvonneCa Apr 2017 #1
Ok. n/t politicasista Apr 2017 #2
Actually, for the first time in decades, he is free to say what he thinks karynnj Apr 2017 #3
Ok n/t politicasista Apr 2017 #4
With. Favreau, he was with Kerry straight out of college karynnj Apr 2017 #5
Maybe we agree to disagree n/t politicasista Apr 2017 #6
Actually HRC is getting attacked more on both DU and Daily Kos karynnj Apr 2017 #7
Ok. Will concede that. n/t politicasista Apr 2017 #8
Kerry was far from the only person in the administration who thought some military karynnj Apr 2017 #9
Ok. n/t politicasista Apr 2017 #10
The Hill slants to the right karynnj Apr 2017 #11
Ok n/t politicasista Apr 2017 #12
I am not playing this game karynnj Apr 2017 #13
I am not playing any game or attacking anyone politicasista Apr 2017 #14
Sorry for my comments karynnj Apr 2017 #15
It's all good... politicasista Apr 2017 #16
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