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StrayKat

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33. I think there is a market for this, and if that's your goal, you could potentially do very well.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:48 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm a bit confused about your goal. You seem to be very down on the health aspect of vegetarianism. Are you interested in getting more people to eat vegetarian because of animal rights? World hunger? Which goal of vegetarianism do you think 'health nut' veggers hurting?

Personally, I usually choose to go to vegetarian/vegan restaurants when I do go out, but I would be unlikely to patronize a place that only serves the fat and salt laden junk you're proposing. As I pointed out, I can easily get that already almost anywhere.

Some things that might be worth considering before completely discarding healthy options:

1. Although people go vegan/vegetarian for a variety of reasons including animal rights, economics, social concerns, poor cooking skills, and fashion, health reasons are still at the top of the list. Carrying only high salt, high fat items that "taste good" could alienate a considerable section of the market. Being the place that all members of a group can find something that suits their needs has advantages. Even though they are far from the most popular item, McDonald's keeps salads on the menu for a reason. Salads and oatmeal contribute to indirect sales.

2. If you hope to establish regular patrons, it might be wise to have a few items that are healthy enough to eat daily. The food you describe is often considered 'transitional food' by many long-term vegans and vegetarians. It has great appeal to people dabbling in vegetarianism and who may still crave bulky food with meaty texture or flavors, but often loses its appeal as people become more accustomed to the vegetarian foods and lifestyle.

3. Tasty doesn't have to mean unhealthy. In the same way that vegetable dishes can be made more appealing than meat dishes to meat eaters, so can lower salt and fat dishes be made more appealing to people who are unaware of their salt and fat consumption.

4. One of the biggest disappointments to me when I find vegetarian restaurants is to discover that their idea of vegetarian is "no meat" instead of "high veg". If "no meat" were really the only thing I were looking for, I could just hold the burger on the big Mac and pick the pepperoni off the pizza from the local take out.

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Been waiting for this for years. villager Oct 2013 #1
SF and Berkeley as test markets, maybe El Lay (Venice or Santa Monica) Taverner Oct 2013 #2
Although there is one thing about NYC... Taverner Oct 2013 #3
Here's what we have now in NYC- LiberalElite Dec 2013 #42
Every falafel ever sold tells you there is such a market. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #4
There was a great place in San Diego in the 90s called 'Faque Burger' mwrguy Oct 2013 #5
My guess is wrong location Taverner Oct 2013 #6
Hillcrest seems like a good place for one mwrguy Oct 2013 #9
We have Veggie Grill in California State the Obvious Oct 2013 #7
Veggie Grill ain't bad -- but is it exactly the template Taverner was calling for? villager Oct 2013 #10
Here you go... State the Obvious Oct 2013 #12
Much more upscale than I would want to do Taverner Oct 2013 #14
Was the texture the same? CrispyQ Oct 2013 #17
Sure! You need a food processor Taverner Oct 2013 #18
Thanks! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #20
That is why you have to seriously liquify the "meat" Taverner Oct 2013 #21
Yes - I wouldn't want to compete with veg restaurants Taverner Oct 2013 #13
There is also this in the East Bay Taverner Oct 2013 #8
There's a place in Brooklyn, NY.. SummerSnow Oct 2013 #11
There was a veggie burger place in Boulder several years ago. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #15
There is a new healthy fast food (upscale) coming to my neighborhood soon but i can't remember kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #16
Corn chowder with cashew cream, oh my! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #19
I always thought this was possible, FirstLight Oct 2013 #22
I think we can do even better. We can make a veggie burger that tastes better than beef Taverner Oct 2013 #23
yes! FirstLight Oct 2013 #25
Bill Hicks was the man! Taverner Oct 2013 #27
Agree 100% Beringia Dec 2013 #43
My thoughts. . . StrayKat Oct 2013 #24
Healthy sounds great on paper, but it has trouble selling Taverner Oct 2013 #26
I think there is a market for this, and if that's your goal, you could potentially do very well. StrayKat Oct 2013 #33
Noodles and Co. ginnyinWI Oct 2013 #31
Yup, yup. StrayKat Oct 2013 #34
The market is evolving within existing franchises. MADem Oct 2013 #28
True, but all these places are just doing "me too" Taverner Oct 2013 #29
The problem is getting past people's attitudes. ginnyinWI Oct 2013 #32
The challenge in making these kinds of places viable is that MADem Oct 2013 #35
yes DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #30
A favorite local fast food chain here in inland SoCal Codeine Oct 2013 #36
It would do well here in Chicago mucifer Oct 2013 #37
Evos. n/t flvegan Oct 2013 #38
Sunflower Drive In in Fair Oaks makes the best vegan fast food. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #39
Did anyone mention Orean's? pothos Oct 2013 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #41
Would be nice if Mcdonald's made a veggie burger Beringia Dec 2013 #44
No vegetarian restaurants here where I live in North Georgia. RebelOne Dec 2013 #45
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