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In reply to the discussion: We’re American Jewish Historians. This Is Why We’ve Left Zionism Behind [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)2. "It is hard to know whether to be more offended by their arrogance or their idiocy."
There is a robust debate in American Jewry, even within the walls of my own synagogue. But it does not include people who repudiate the right of Israel to exist. I suppose you might entertain the right of people to argue France should not exist. After all some people believe that, and prove it regularly with bombs and bullets. But I suspect that none of us would readily give credence to the argument or invite it into our homes. No, you cannot argue that France, or China, or Russia or any other country in the world, no matter its behavior, should not exist. It is unthinkable. Only Israel is accorded the argument for ideological or literal obliteration, and now it passes in polite company as a real discussion.
So two Jewish historians take to an Israeli newspaper to argue against the continuation of the Jewish State of Israel. It is hard to know whether to be more offended by their arrogance or their idiocy.
So two Jewish historians take to an Israeli newspaper to argue against the continuation of the Jewish State of Israel. It is hard to know whether to be more offended by their arrogance or their idiocy.
http://time.com/4435022/israel-debate/?xid=fbshare
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We’re American Jewish Historians. This Is Why We’ve Left Zionism Behind [View all]
Little Tich
Aug 2016
OP
The American Jews Who've Exchanged Their Utopian Myths About Israel for Demonic Ones
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#1
Hyperbole a little? "Demonic ones?" You sound like an ill-educated evangelical christian.
Nitram
Aug 2016
#3
"It is hard to know whether to be more offended by their arrogance or their idiocy."
shira
Aug 2016
#2
The historians argue that Israel should become a democracy instead of "a Jewish State."
Nitram
Aug 2016
#4
I see that NetaNyahu has threateneed to shoot "stone throwers," or sentence them to 20-year terms.
Nitram
Aug 2016
#30
You seem to be arguing that Israeli racism and discrimination towards Arabs is justified?
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#35
Just contextualizing the situation as Israel has been under attack since 1948....
shira
Aug 2016
#48
I currently live in Australia, so I'm well aware of Australian racist attitudes.
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#37
I think it's more likely that it's Israel's treatment of Palestinians that's the main cause for
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#22
Of course it is. The vicious, racist, genocidal hatreds of Palestinian leaders....
shira
Aug 2016
#56
Some people look at the right of return as a right to return to their ancestral homeland,
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#65
You believe the LoR is racist because you support the destruction of the Jewish state....
shira
Aug 2016
#66
Ah. So what Israel is doing to the Palestinians in the name of Zionism would be considered racism if
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#69
I think that all attempts to refute the OP have failed sofar. Hasia Diner and Marjorie Feld are
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#39
I think the OP has a valid point when it comes to Jewish communities not in Israel.
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#51
Perhaps the Israeli government should spend more time protecting children than censoring twitter.
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#73
You should put all your posts into a blog "israeycool -watch" would be a good name...
King_David
Aug 2016
#33