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Beastly Boy

(11,297 posts)
6. You shouldn't have.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:08 AM
Sep 2024

No, seriously, you shouldn't have repeated what Bibi's demands are the second time. That was totally redundant, and I knew what they were even before you started.

Not that you had to go far to get the answers beyond Bibi's demands: your second source has them. All you had to do was pay attention to what you are citing. Not too much to ask for, is it?

One Egyptian official said the bridging proposal requires the implementation of the deal’s first phase, which has Hamas releasing the most vulnerable civilian hostages captured in its October 7 attack that sparked the war.

Parties during the first phase would negotiate the second and third phases with no “guarantees” to Hamas from Israel or mediators.

“The Americans are offering promises, not guarantees,” the official said. “Hamas won’t accept this, because it virtually means Hamas will release the civilian hostages in return for a six-week pause of fighting with no guarantees for a negotiated permanent ceasefire.”

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Israel offers to downsize its forces in the Philadelphi corridor, with “promises” to withdraw from the area, he said.

You see, Israel was the only party to accept the Biden proposal. Hamas never did. And Biden's proposal stipulates that the complete withdrawal of IDF troops from Gaza is to be negotiated in Stage 2, after most hostages, alive and murdered, have been returned to Israel. Hamas, on the other hand, is demanding guarantees that all IDF troops be withdrawn from Gaza as a precondition for starting the negotiations for Step 1. They also now demand additional convicted terrorists to be released from Israeli prisons.


He also said the proposal does not clearly say Israel will withdraw its forces from two strategic corridors in Gaza, the Philadelphi corridor alongside Egypt and the Netzarim corridor east to west across the territory.

No shit! That was exactly what Biden's proposal contained and what Israel accepted! The withdrawal of IDF forces was to be negotiated for Phase 2, once Phase 1 has been agreed upon and is being implemented. The entire Philadelphi corridor arrangement was not supposed to be negotiated for Phase 1 to begin with! Bibi's "new" demands are the response to Hamas' new demands to vacate the Philadelphi corridor as a precondition for their participation in the Phase 1 of the negotiations.

But why do I even bother to focus your attention on the pesky little facts like these? I knew this. YOU were supposed to find this out for your own benefit, not mine, and you failed. Not because you lacked information (it was staring you right in the face), but because you deliberately omitted it from your consideration.

Enough of this nonsense. You have made your intentions pellucidly clear, to borrow a phrase.

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Israel's demands to keep the Philadelphi Corridor occupied have thrown a huge wrench in the deal as well. Eko Sep 2024 #1
Are you aware of what Israel's "demand" entails? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #2
Yes. Eko Sep 2024 #3
That's Bibi's demand. Do you know what Israel's position is that Bibi accepted despite his demands? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #4
Here. Eko Sep 2024 #5
You shouldn't have. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #6
But I wanted to. Eko Sep 2024 #7
You wanted to be redundant? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #8
Apparently I have to be redundant Eko Sep 2024 #9
And here is the original plan. Eko Sep 2024 #10
This is a BBC article, silly, not the original plan. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #11
You claiming something is not in the plan Eko Sep 2024 #12
You are messing with me, right? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #13
Jeeze, Eko Sep 2024 #14
How long did you look for the text of the plan? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #15
You claiming that you have evidence of something Eko Sep 2024 #16
You yourself just admitted you don't know what you are talking about. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #17
From the words of the man who wrote the plan. Eko Sep 2024 #18
Ok, now you are getting plain ridiculous Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #19
Sure, the words of the man who did the plan Eko Sep 2024 #20
Do you know what a synopsis is? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #21
Post the plan. Eko Sep 2024 #22
Not on your demand. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #23
Oh wait, I found it. Eko Sep 2024 #24
That's funny! Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #25
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