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rrneck

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75. Words matter, but deeds matter more.

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:04 PM

Feb 2012

Right now, at this moment, every woman who put a plate of food on a table, made a bed, answered a phone, or punched a keyboard should be in the streets screaming "we want our fucking money!" Not because they're women, but because they're human beings that deserve to be treated right. If that happened there would be a bunch of men right there with them. If we work together toward real, tangible justice culture will follow right along behind us.

This business of worrying about who says what to whom and how perceive each other simply divides us and gives the other side victory by default.

Don't believe me? After the triumph of women and minorities in the sixties and seventies and the political power it brought, how do you explain everything that happened after?

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] redqueen Feb 2012 OP

Oh no! cyberswede Feb 2012 #1

I never thought I would feel physically ill after reading posts here. redqueen Feb 2012 #6

I've had a similar sensation lately foo_bar Feb 2012 #106

damn, you are good. what a post. ..... yes. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #109

not to be discriminatory here iverglas Feb 2012 #110

Sorry to see you go. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #2

Not I, however Feldspar Feb 2012 #3

no. seabeyond Feb 2012 #4

I only want to participate on sites that aren't overrun redqueen Feb 2012 #8

i hear ya seabeyond Feb 2012 #10

pardon the question DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #60

Men's rights activists.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #96

Losing you as host does not bother me as much as CrispyQ Feb 2012 #5

The jury system is a big part of this. redqueen Feb 2012 #9

That poster is/was a troll. The goal of trolls is to wreck and disrupt. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #107

Think about a break first. rrneck Feb 2012 #7

I appreciate that. redqueen Feb 2012 #11

"issues that aren't necessarily an accurate reflection of the real world." Feldspar Feb 2012 #13

This place is made of words. rrneck Feb 2012 #19

and some people choose not to live in the shit. that is what we use to have with du seabeyond Feb 2012 #20

You dont have to throw it rrneck Feb 2012 #27

i find the majority of women present it in a manner that is not about telling them "what to do" seabeyond Feb 2012 #30

Well, maybe I'm too thick skinned. rrneck Feb 2012 #55

maybe, you are not a woman. and maybe you have not experienced the aggressive attack on females the seabeyond Feb 2012 #57

It's true I'm not a woman. rrneck Feb 2012 #69

but see, i will stand up for you each and every time without it being a bother. or anyone else, seabeyond Feb 2012 #71

Same here. rrneck Feb 2012 #74

I know you are fully intending to be respectful here iverglas Feb 2012 #79

The issue that most dramatically rrneck Feb 2012 #88

"And the tragedy is that the real world problems that plague women plague men too." Feldspar Feb 2012 #93

Is that what men want? Prove it. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #95

I have to refer you back to the statement of principles iverglas Feb 2012 #101

Ok. I'll leave you alone and i hope there's no hsrd feelings. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #102

Another MRA outing himself right here in *Progressive Liberal Land* - Anyone surprised? n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #80

Whats an MRA? nt rrneck Feb 2012 #92

Look in the mirror, or use Google like everybody else. n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #97

I didn't deserve that. rrneck Feb 2012 #100

I didn't know what it was either till I read this thread.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #111

I'm started to get tired of people making up acronyms totally outside of process.. snooper2 Feb 2012 #119

Please think about what you have just said... redqueen Feb 2012 #22

I'll give you an easy straight line here rrneck Feb 2012 #39

With all due respect, rrneck Feldspar Feb 2012 #26

Sure they mran something. rrneck Feb 2012 #32

"Nobody can really hurt you here - unless you let them." Feldspar Feb 2012 #35

or the seeming willingness to ignore our teens killing themselves because words hurt seabeyond Feb 2012 #36

Thanks, Seabeyond :) Feldspar Feb 2012 #38

I haven't seen any porn here. Only words rrneck Feb 2012 #42

You are deliberately *missing* my point and that's Feldspar Feb 2012 #52

i think that has been the most frustrating. actually taking the time to make the point and seabeyond Feb 2012 #54

And you missed my point. rrneck Feb 2012 #63

you are wrong. they feed. the feed into every part of our life. they feed into how a child sees seabeyond Feb 2012 #72

Words matter, but deeds matter more. rrneck Feb 2012 #75

words matter, deeds matter, behavior matters, intent matters. seabeyond Feb 2012 #83

I came hete to suggest redqueen not leave. rrneck Feb 2012 #91

words condition the brain. words are what effect the action. words create the mentality seabeyond Feb 2012 #94

The street is the base youre looking for. rrneck Feb 2012 #99

People seek power by being around the powerful. Neoma Feb 2012 #103

Then keep it on that topic. Neoma Feb 2012 #105

I agree DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #62

I feared something like this would happen. There is no attempt to regulate content here anymore, BlueIris Feb 2012 #12

Thanks... redqueen Feb 2012 #14

Skinner sees the good angels in us all, or it seems. Whisp Feb 2012 #43

Assuming that at least one of the current hosts stay, you're safe to retire. laconicsax Feb 2012 #15

Thanks... redqueen Feb 2012 #18

The way the host system works makes that somewhat unnecessary. laconicsax Feb 2012 #21

i think she should be the one out of all of us anyway.... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #23

Aha, thanks. redqueen Feb 2012 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Feb 2012 #16

Well it's still very deeply entrenched, the patriarchy. redqueen Feb 2012 #17

Is it just a patriarchy DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #65

this has become a favorite quote of mine. i understand so much better now. i know seabeyond Feb 2012 #73

no offense meant DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #85

i wasnt offended. i dont know why you would pull out anywhere in that i was offended. seabeyond Feb 2012 #87

I would be extremely saddened to see you go; I don't post here, but I lurk this forum petronius Feb 2012 #25

Youve got it all wrong. Ignorance, is an invitation to teach. WingDinger Feb 2012 #28

Way to mansplain there WD... n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #33

I clicked to reply in this thread iverglas Feb 2012 #29

DUDES AND DUDETTES. Our tent is growing, and there are many motivations for this. WingDinger Feb 2012 #31

Way to mansplain.2 n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #34

No one here has a "thin skin." Those leaving are not leaving for that reason. BlueIris Feb 2012 #45

But you're a classic member! Neoma Feb 2012 #37

so sorry to hear that! Whisp Feb 2012 #40

Not to speak for RQ but, Feldspar Feb 2012 #44

Um, I have done just that. And not always when agreeing completely. WingDinger Feb 2012 #48

Mansplain.4 Feldspar Feb 2012 #61

That's not usually how it works. Neoma Feb 2012 #50

you are off the mark with that, Feldspar. Whisp Feb 2012 #56

I understand, It is getting hard to stay around here these days. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #41

There has been talk, at least in my house, Feldspar Feb 2012 #46

woman raped by cop, jury system unprincipled, this thread seabeyond Feb 2012 #47

Jury system not broken. It is evolving. People try to be fair. WingDinger Feb 2012 #49

some are trying to be fair. many are not. and you can tell that also in the vote and comments left seabeyond Feb 2012 #51

I have seen some reporting, and some juroring make it a mockery. WingDinger Feb 2012 #53

Mansplain.3. Bodyguard?! Holy crow. n/t Feldspar Feb 2012 #58

grinnin. ya. but he means well..... nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #59

It sure is nice to know that some strong anti-feminist Feldspar Feb 2012 #64

Grew up outnumbered. They were anything but shrinking violets. WingDinger Feb 2012 #68

"This might be one of those thin skin moments." Mansplain.5 Feldspar Feb 2012 #76

Another patriarchal tongue cheeking. WingDinger Feb 2012 #77

ah, wingdinger..... seabeyond Feb 2012 #84

i am not ready to go yet. not today seabeyond Feb 2012 #66

It goes beyind that IMHO DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #70

"we need to see if the mods are willing to do this, and if we would offer help." Feldspar Feb 2012 #78

Ladies is? DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #82

let me ask you, being flexible in mind that you are. because i have been addressing this the last seabeyond Feb 2012 #86

well DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #98

The issue with the word "lady" noamnety Feb 2012 #104

ok, THAT makes sense DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #108

"Women" n/t MadrasT Feb 2012 #89

the system is evolving? Whisp Feb 2012 #67

I've seen that 'it's evolving' thing right from the start here at DU3... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #112

Not I ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #81

I certainly understand needing to step back MadrasT Feb 2012 #90

I wish you weren't stepping down as host, redqueen... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #113

save me a place on the other side, will ya? iverglas Feb 2012 #114

I too do not want to see you go Remember Me Feb 2012 #115

kick for historical record yardwork Feb 2012 #116

you're a peach.. thanks so much boston bean Feb 2012 #117

You're welcome! yardwork Feb 2012 #118