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ck4829

(35,918 posts)
3. I'm white and I agree with you
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:16 PM
May 2018

I want to say that there is another aspect to dehumanization often overlooked and we see it it with these attitudes, and that is "superhumanization". Common examples are Asians are good at math, black people are natural athletes, violent white people are mentally ill but you never see it brought up with violent Muslims for some reason, and more.

And I see it here with progressives and the groups that honestly want to work with them, GLBTQ, the poor, minority religions, and yes, ethnic groups.

I see it with the call to take the high road, that these groups can put their immediate needs aside, to not participate in "identity politics", etc.

My fellow progressives have constructed this bar I guess to make themselves feel good, like hey, we're not winning elections but at least we're not stooping down. "We're sleeping well at night" I can't speak to the experience of a black person or a gay person, but i have my own issues... personal and loving relationships with marginalized groups and a nephew with a rare disease. The whole "We may not have a place at the table but at least we took the high road" has no meaning to me as I imagine it also has no meaning for all the marginalized Democrats out there.

We're calling on everyone to "be better" but you know what? We're all human, we can crack jokes, we should be vulgar not all the time and not to an extreme but it shouldn't be a cardinal sin, there needs to be a place where the "stiff upper lip" that the marginalized have to keep apparently in response to dehumanization can be dropped, and more.

We need to rehumanize the groups the far right wants to dehumanize and sometimes that means being just like everyone else.

I'm confused. Who are the "they" you are saying are not percieving POC as human? Squinch May 2018 #1
I am saying that I believe The Polack MSgt May 2018 #4
Oh. Ok. I totally agree. Squinch May 2018 #8
I have a question... quickesst May 2018 #18
Well let me answer this way The Polack MSgt May 2018 #19
Still didn't answer my question quickesst May 2018 #20
I ain't buying this. The Polack MSgt May 2018 #21
Haha quickesst May 2018 #22
Ok I'm home now The Polack MSgt May 2018 #24
Haha quickesst May 2018 #31
this seems heaven05 May 2018 #36
That the OP.... quickesst May 2018 #42
I'm looking for the peer-reviewed and objective sources in your arguments as well.. LanternWaste May 2018 #50
Out of respect... quickesst May 2018 #52
Let's go through these one at a time The Polack MSgt May 2018 #25
I am also white..... quickesst May 2018 #32
next up is this The Polack MSgt May 2018 #26
You can be.... quickesst May 2018 #33
So, in conclusion The Polack MSgt May 2018 #27
Exactly what did you imply? quickesst May 2018 #34
What is this? The Polack MSgt May 2018 #38
Well.... quickesst May 2018 #43
Thank you JustAnotherGen May 2018 #46
you got it quickesst May 2018 #48
Your usage of 'inference' is inaccurate LanternWaste May 2018 #49
This is beautiful and very much on point for me today JustAnotherGen May 2018 #2
Kind of goes along with the mcar May 2018 #10
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ehrnst May 2018 #13
+++++++++++++++++++++ leftofcool May 2018 #29
+++ sheshe2 May 2018 #11
So well put. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #14
Paternalism by proxy Quayblue May 2018 #30
Thanks you JustAnotherGen May 2018 #39
I just went back and read. +1000, shameful indeed nt Quayblue May 2018 #44
yes, yes heaven05 May 2018 #37
I'm white and I agree with you ck4829 May 2018 #3
Yes on all of it! JustAnotherGen May 2018 #5
"and sometimes that means being just like everyone else." The Polack MSgt May 2018 #6
I had an Asian buddy check me about 15 years ago Quayblue May 2018 #45
My friend Eric JustAnotherGen May 2018 #47
Folks who are quicker to condemn Democrats than they are people on the right MrScorpio May 2018 #7
Threads full of them right now... (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #15
K&R mcar May 2018 #9
K&R sheshe2 May 2018 #12
Alternately, not "misogynists" who are concerned that a lady comedian ehrnst May 2018 #16
Outstanding The Polack MSgt May 2018 #17
Jokes Are The Last Thing SHS Has To Worry About Me. May 2018 #23
Excellent OP. Great observations. kwassa May 2018 #28
ameriKKKa heaven05 May 2018 #35
Yeah, woke up to a bunch of replies The Polack MSgt May 2018 #40
yes, clear concise heaven05 May 2018 #41
Thank you so much, MasterSGT. Nt Anon-C May 2018 #51
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