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MineralMan

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Sun Sep 30, 2018, 12:15 PM Sep 2018

Many religions, and Christianity in particular, speak of a deity as [View all]

a real thing that exists. Christianity claims that its deity appeared on Earth in human form, died, and ascended into Heaven. They claim that their "savior" still lives and is part of their lives.

And yet, no human can see a deity. Even Moses, the patriarch of Judaism and Christianity, claimed to only have seen God's hind parts. But, that's written in very, very old writings, and can't be supported by evidence.

Nobody has seen any deities. Nobody can present any evidence of their existence. Still, many religious speak of their deity or deities as though they were real and present. For many people, that is simply not adequate information to demonstrate that any deities exist. So, they do not believe such entities exist at all and are simply figures of mythology. Many of those people would gladly believe that a deity exists if they were presented with even a little tangible evidence.

Instead, what is presented is something called "faith." That is the evidence we are expected to take as proof. Faith, which is defined in one scripture as "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." In other words, evidence of nothing at all. So, we do not believe. We cannot believe.

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uh. Moses Brainstormy Sep 2018 #1
Yes, I suppose not. Not Adam nor Eve, either. MineralMan Sep 2018 #2
nor Abraham Brainstormy Sep 2018 #4
It's possible Moses and Abraham existed marylandblue Sep 2018 #11
There were no Jewish slaves edhopper Sep 2018 #19
Part of the Moses story was based on the Story of Sargon of Akkad. marylandblue Sep 2018 #21
the portrayal of slavery in Egypt in the Penteteuch edhopper Sep 2018 #22
In what way does the portrayal of slavery in the Bible marylandblue Sep 2018 #23
We are getting into some wide ranging archeology now edhopper Oct 2018 #24
Yes it is wide ranging archeology marylandblue Oct 2018 #25
We must also remember how much of the early Bible stories edhopper Oct 2018 #35
We are told it's all "metaphorical" Major Nikon Sep 2018 #18
Blind man's bluff: "I believe it because I can't see it." live2011 Sep 2018 #3
Hold on a second... TreasonousBastard Sep 2018 #5
Can you see and touch your cat? Then it is real, and must MineralMan Sep 2018 #6
There's a reason Major Nikon Sep 2018 #20
That's exactly what my grandmother said Butterflylady Sep 2018 #7
Very astute of you as a child. MineralMan Sep 2018 #8
whole earth populated by one incestuous family Brainstormy Sep 2018 #15
This fixation on a deity distracts us from the actual profundity and Mystery of nature DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #9
"Produndity" - I like that. It evokes the word "dunce" for me. MineralMan Sep 2018 #10
"Nobody has seen any deities " Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2018 #12
Our Lady of Fatima Cartoonist Sep 2018 #13
Oh, for pete's sake! All sorts of people see visions. MineralMan Sep 2018 #16
People talking to God Ron Obvious Sep 2018 #14
Henry IV Part 1 is my favorite Shakespeare play of all time. MineralMan Sep 2018 #17
Recently spent some time in cilla4progress Oct 2018 #26
Mysticism and Visions Have a Long History in the Catholic Church. MineralMan Oct 2018 #27
yeah.... well it's a lot simpler Locrian Oct 2018 #28
Well, ingestion of substances is not required to "see things." MineralMan Oct 2018 #29
dreams are not really the same Locrian Oct 2018 #30
You also have to add in the tradition of fasting and long hours praying marylandblue Oct 2018 #31
I suppose lots of things can lead to "visions" and "apparitions." MineralMan Oct 2018 #34
Earth shattering zipplewrath Oct 2018 #32
I made no claim of that kind. MineralMan Oct 2018 #33
Came up out of long ago favorite. aka-chmeee Oct 2018 #36
Hey, I'm a real cool cat, for sure. MineralMan Oct 2018 #37
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