2016 Postmortem

Lizzie Poppet

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99. While I could never mark my ballot for Trump...

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:06 AM

Mar 2016

...I have no problem stating that I don't see him as being all that much worse from a policy standpoint as Clinton. The little he's released in detail about his policy positions actually indicate he's basically center-right...just like Hillary. The issue with him, aside from the outrageous shit that spews from his piehole, is the SCOTUS. But I suspect he'd actually be less likely to send us into yet more bullshit, discretionary wars. Hillary's record in that matter speaks for itself. Moreover, neither candidate will do fuck-all to address the issued of economic justice that are the centerpiece of Bernie's platform (and which are, by far, my own priorities).

It's not a wash for me, as I won't vote for a racist...but it's not like it isn't close.

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HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL: The Bernie Sanders voters who would choose Trump over Clinton [View all] BigBearJohn Mar 2016 OP

That is just stupid. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #1

Not If Citizens Are Fed Up With The Clintons cantbeserious Mar 2016 #2

I don't care how much anyone is "fed up with the Clintons" Adrahil Mar 2016 #58

Yup. Agschmid Mar 2016 #62

Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently cantbeserious Mar 2016 #70

Then they are idiots and do not belong here. Disgusting. #Trumphumping NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #73

It is not the people here who will make the difference... Human101948 Mar 2016 #80

You are exactly right. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #141

No one is Trumphumping Politicalboi Mar 2016 #158

Are you actually rationalizing if not quietly endorsing these people? Your posts reads that way. LonePirate Mar 2016 #88

They will no longer settle for the lesser of two evils BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #104

We've been here before and we know WhiteTara Mar 2016 #127

We already had a Clinton in the WH Politicalboi Mar 2016 #159

I agree. But voting for Trump is like voting for Bush again. Now that's insanity brush Mar 2016 #213

Nah, voting for Trump is idiotic. brush Mar 2016 #112

Totally agree. redwitch Mar 2016 #167

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #201

Huh? Trump has already said he'd bomb the shit out of them. brush Mar 2016 #205

Yes, they do, or you do? do you prefer Trump over Clinton because you dont care Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #202

An electorate that put Bush Junior in the White House TWICE IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #108

Some feel the same about Clinton revbones Mar 2016 #143

Neither can voting for murderers like HRC Nickel79 Mar 2016 #192

Trump is stupid RobertEarl Mar 2016 #3

think blue collar white guy tk2kewl Mar 2016 #4

Correct. 840high Mar 2016 #17

No, it is not Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #206

In some ways Trump and Bernie are alike. It would follow that they both attract similar voters. upaloopa Mar 2016 #5

Most of the folks I know who are for Trump griffi94 Mar 2016 #11

So far I haven't wanted to ask my relatives who they support. My guess is that it is Trump. upaloopa Mar 2016 #15

"Herd mentality" describes Hillary supporters 100% revbones Mar 2016 #18

Yeah there's some of that griffi94 Mar 2016 #20

Yep. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Armstead Mar 2016 #76

You're insulting a very large group of people. Why are you doing this? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #116

What group is that. griffi94 Mar 2016 #149

Unlike Hillary supporters k8conant Mar 2016 #166

Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Libertarians. Never felt they had any allegiance to the Democratic Party. nt Fla Dem Mar 2016 #148

Most of the Trump supporters I know griffi94 Mar 2016 #153

Are you kidding! burrowowl Mar 2016 #27

In many ways, Hillary is more conservative than the republicans Nickel79 Mar 2016 #135

Hillary has won the red states primarily because of the African American vote Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #193

Oh, you think she's a "progressive?" Nickel79 Mar 2016 #198

I need to put a lid on racism?! WTF? Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #200

You referred to us as "the African American vote" Nickel79 Mar 2016 #203

Nonsense Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #207

You're confused about red state demographics Nickel79 Mar 2016 #211

You seem a little confused. brush Mar 2016 #214

I'm "confused?" Nickel79 Mar 2016 #215

Wasn't the topic of the OP dems opting to vote for Trump instead of Clinton? brush Mar 2016 #218

Trump and Clinton are alike Politicalboi Mar 2016 #160

Could you name some of those ways, please? Octafish Mar 2016 #208

TPP and Trade is going to be a huge issue DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #6

Also the Iraq war jfern Mar 2016 #26

Which Trump supported in the past. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #102

LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2016 #163

Also social security. /nt RiverLover Mar 2016 #48

Anyone who votes for Trump is neither a Democrat or liberal still_one Mar 2016 #7

Or someone that just can't stand Hillary if she wins the nomination, and revbones Mar 2016 #19

NO. That is a false flag. Any person who votes for a racist, says everything about that person. still_one Mar 2016 #22

That's funny. Hillary supporters have been revbones Mar 2016 #29

I believe Hillary is a racist notadmblnd Mar 2016 #60

What racist did she vote for? all american girl Mar 2016 #74

I did not say she voted for racists. I said I believe she is racist notadmblnd Mar 2016 #162

Totally misread that....I thought it meant that she voted for a racist all american girl Mar 2016 #164

The woman with overwhelming black support is a racist? Ok. nt hack89 Mar 2016 #81

Yes. notadmblnd Mar 2016 #161

Let me guess - you are white. hack89 Mar 2016 #165

Stockholm syndrome? How the hell did you get that out of what I wrote? notadmblnd Mar 2016 #188

Don't you think those that suffer daily from racism hack89 Mar 2016 #189

As a matter of fact, yes I have experienced bigotry. notadmblnd Mar 2016 #190

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #204

That's insane. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #92

Please, enlighten me Nickel79 Mar 2016 #34

Here. Now do yourself a favor and educate yourself. Tanuki Mar 2016 #46

Educate? You're kidding, right? Nickel79 Mar 2016 #120

I guess you are unfamiliar with ontheissues.org, and didn't bother to look at it, Tanuki Mar 2016 #144

I'm well aware of that website Nickel79 Mar 2016 #175

Bull. You obviously weren't familiar with it when you dismissed it as Tanuki Mar 2016 #179

No more claims Nickel79 Mar 2016 #181

I'm guessing because her and Bernie agree, and voted (I think) 93% of the time all american girl Mar 2016 #75

Its that 7% that makes the difference SwampG8r Mar 2016 #94

Seriously? all american girl Mar 2016 #114

It depends on how the evaluation items are weighted Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #126

The Iraq war was in that 7%. So, no. djean111 Mar 2016 #131

Could you please cite me some evidence of that....turning away from being a liberal. all american girl Mar 2016 #134

TPP, war, cluster bombs, fracking - to name just a few things that Hillary is fond of, and that are djean111 Mar 2016 #139

Its easy to minimize the differences SwampG8r Mar 2016 #142

Exactly, she admits it in her book monicaangela Mar 2016 #86

She also had the paperback edition edited Nickel79 Mar 2016 #128

Yet another despicable thing to add monicaangela Mar 2016 #168

I can't believe it either, Monicaangela. Nickel79 Mar 2016 #173

I watched this on Democracy now this morning monicaangela Mar 2016 #183

Unbelievable. Made me cry. Nickel79 Mar 2016 #186

That makes two of us monicaangela Mar 2016 #187

I don't even know what to say anymore. Nickel79 Mar 2016 #191

I understand how you feel monicaangela Mar 2016 #197

You've truly highlighted the positives Nickel79 Mar 2016 #199

We cannot win an election with only the votes of Democrats and Liberals. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #65

A lot of people do not vote according to neat political labels like 'Democrat' and 'liberal.' 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #91

The same could be said of Hillary. ozone_man Mar 2016 #140

That is not something I would ever do. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #8

I would never vote for Trump, but I understand their reasoning. They want to send a message. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #9

That's how I feel Nickel79 Mar 2016 #35

people are still underestimating the antiestablishment rage people are feeling. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #10

Glenn Beck said he would support Sanders over Trump. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #12

I have a friend who is this voter nevergiveup Mar 2016 #13

If your friend votes for a racist, then that speaks volumes about him still_one Mar 2016 #23

You keep making blanket generalizations Nickel79 Mar 2016 #37

"Exercise a little thought. Think critically. Try being persuasive" salinsky Mar 2016 #111

You say "infantile" out of pure cowardice or ignorance Nickel79 Mar 2016 #122

Yes, infantile ... salinsky Mar 2016 #133

Your intellectual failures are fairly numerous on this topic, further supporting... Nickel79 Mar 2016 #174

Lol BlindTiresias Mar 2016 #117

Great reply Nickel79 Mar 2016 #124

That a steaming pile of poop. It's astounding in 2016 anonymous people snagglepuss Mar 2016 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #30

In this instance, anonymous posters making Bernie supporters look smells too snagglepuss Mar 2016 #89

No doubt, you have objective evidence to support your allegation, yes? LanternWaste Mar 2016 #132

Just to make it clear, I am NOT defending these people, but... Odin2005 Mar 2016 #16

I'm one of these "idiots" Nickel79 Mar 2016 #38

Oh, I agree with you. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #50

I completely understand Nickel79 Mar 2016 #137

I urge people to look up the C-SPAN PATRICK Mar 2016 #42

The democratic party has ignored the anger out there. They could have easily capitalized on it Autumn Mar 2016 #21

hey, if they vote for Trump who is a racist, then they are racists. They don't have to vote for still_one Mar 2016 #24

hey, if they vote for Hillary who is a liar revbones Mar 2016 #32

Here's the flaw in your argument ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #36

Did I say the majority did? No. revbones Mar 2016 #40

Actually Hillary's negatives are almost as bad as Trump's Human101948 Mar 2016 #106

Championed equality? Nickel79 Mar 2016 #41

She's kinda sorta supported in since 2013.... revbones Mar 2016 #110

Agreed, and it makes me think back to 2003 - 2008 Nickel79 Mar 2016 #177

And if they don't vote Buzz cook Mar 2016 #45

Huh? Trump as a lesser evil compared to Hillary? joshcryer Mar 2016 #63

I didn't say anything about why Trump was winning the nomination. revbones Mar 2016 #96

I'm saying they're more likely to not vote... joshcryer Mar 2016 #98

While I appreciate your insightful analysis revbones Mar 2016 #109

I think Clinton is a scandal magnet. joshcryer Mar 2016 #118

Well... revbones Mar 2016 #121

I don't think it's fear. joshcryer Mar 2016 #125

I think being shut out they way they have been during this election revbones Mar 2016 #136

The great thing is we'll know in 8 months. joshcryer Mar 2016 #138

They don't care what you think. djean111 Mar 2016 #39

Sorry, that's just nonsense. A vote is just that, a vote. Autumn Mar 2016 #84

I'd think a lot would vote 3rd party or not bother to vote jfern Mar 2016 #25

Anyone who would vote for for Donald Trump is a racist Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #28

By that logic, anyone that would vote for Hillary is a liar. It doesn't work does it? revbones Mar 2016 #31

Excuse his racism? Full stop. Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #130

Equally strange, but may provide some insights eggman67 Mar 2016 #33

It's not really that big a deal Onlooker Mar 2016 #43

Old news Buzz cook Mar 2016 #44

"far fetched"? hardly. Over-the-top-Hillary-hate is not limited to RWers DrDan Mar 2016 #47

I hope not Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #66

It was flooded. OK? delrem Mar 2016 #49

Maybe some of these Sanders-Trump switchers don't know Trump is a racist. raging moderate Mar 2016 #67

any sander supporter that would vote for trump is truly NOT a sander supporter beachbum bob Mar 2016 #51

You don't say? joshcryer Mar 2016 #54

Lets see how well Trump will do with Independents when ads like this are on the air workinclasszero Mar 2016 #52

R's can never take responsibility for anything! peace13 Mar 2016 #53

(sigh!) The "Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The-Oppressed" attitude DinahMoeHum Mar 2016 #55

So some Sanders supporters are OK with a racist,sexist bigot sufrommich Mar 2016 #56

"to our detriment they have closed their eyes to it" joshcryer Mar 2016 #57

I've seen talk about the Internet generation doing it "for the lulz" shawn703 Mar 2016 #59

Trumps "candidacy" is a pure meme driven thing online. joshcryer Mar 2016 #68

Highly stupid. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #61

I don't think their analysis supports this statement. Skwmom Mar 2016 #64

I expect Bernie to earn the nom, but if not I will write in Bernie Sanders in the general peacebird Mar 2016 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #71

Makes sense CincyDem Mar 2016 #72

People Are Mad... They Want ACTUAL Change This Time... WillyT Mar 2016 #77

Results of your Jury Service FBaggins Mar 2016 #101

Any St. Bernard supporter who would do this is an asshole. beaglelover Mar 2016 #78

... SidDithers Mar 2016 #79

From a reply I posted elsewhere hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #82

So let me get this staight, all american girl Mar 2016 #83

Not this Bernie supporter and Clinton disliker ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #85

There's one right here in this thread who says its Bernie or Donald. yardwork Mar 2016 #97

"In every situation there's going to be more dumb people than smart people" ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #100

Your lack of imagination is shared nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #87

I certainly hope not. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #90

Not a chance I would vote for Trump. timmymoff Mar 2016 #93

This has been obvious right here on DU for months. yardwork Mar 2016 #95

Yes, Trump supporters and Bernie supporters who would switch to Trump are cut from the same cloth .. salinsky Mar 2016 #115

While I could never mark my ballot for Trump... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #99

Few may vote for Trump tazkcmo Mar 2016 #103

Destructive junk. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #105

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #107

Anyone who votes for Trump is a fucking idiot. Zorra Mar 2016 #113

+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #119

Maybe some independents whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #123

Because the Donald is saying things that the Democratic Party ignores at their peril. alarimer Mar 2016 #129

Was the kind of thing I feared. Disgruntled white blue collar workers fed up with trade policies EndElectoral Mar 2016 #145

mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them JTFrog Mar 2016 #146

I think Trump would start less wars than Clinton would. CanadaexPat Mar 2016 #147

He has already said he would use the military to threaten MEXICO for crissakes. Skinner Mar 2016 #152

I could never vote for Trump. bigwillq Mar 2016 #150

A lot of undecided and non voting Americans randr Mar 2016 #151

apparently, some angry progressives will also be going with Trump. MuttLikeMe Mar 2016 #156

It is too bad as the case may be randr Mar 2016 #169

Either emoprogs get their way or it's watch the world burn. MuttLikeMe Mar 2016 #154

The Queen is a terrible terrible terrible candidate Politicalboi Mar 2016 #155

I know a few of these types in real life Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #157

I doubt there are many, if any, Bernie supporters ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #170

right--Clinton will start off by saying "the Republicans are the party of war, deportation, Social- MisterP Mar 2016 #171

Voting for Trump Because SDJay Mar 2016 #172

Any sanders supporter who votes trump will SHAME Bernie.... beachbumbob Mar 2016 #176

According to the article. TheFarseer Mar 2016 #178

It's all about who is easier to get rid of in 4 years if you take a longer view on things.. LonelyLiberalOhio Mar 2016 #180

Wow Turin_C3PO Mar 2016 #182

They talk a lot about this on MSNBC, they have interviewed many that say if not Bernie then Trump krawhitham Mar 2016 #184

In retrospect, this election is going to be considered a turning point in american history. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #185

Hill had better try to make people like her. senz Mar 2016 #194

I know several people who say they would vote for Sanders over Trump, but Trump over Clinton democrattotheend Mar 2016 #195

I do too n/t Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #210

That must have just overwhelmed them kcr Mar 2016 #196

If You Are Voting For The Lesser Of Two Evils, You Are STILL Voting For EVIL... AzDar Mar 2016 #209

Not me - Not EVER !!!!! LyndaG Mar 2016 #212

The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers Mar 2016 #216

No, the fringe left does not like Trump. raging moderate Mar 2016 #217