2016 Postmortem

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16. character is only a part of it.

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:54 PM

Jun 2016

other things matter as well, like issues, priorities, etc.

moreover, "character" is not remotely binary as you describe, especially when it comes to politics.

we could elect a saint only to find them incapable of achieving any helpful outcomes.

lbj had some tremendous accomplishments on the domestic front, and he was known for eating raw onions before close-talking to congress-critters to twist their arms. simply put, he was not a nice guy. but i'll take effective any day of the week if it's in the name of civil rights and progressive values.

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Shouldn't picking POTUS be about character [View all] laserhaas Jun 2016 OP

Only to an extent Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #1

I dont think bible thumping counts as character laserhaas Jun 2016 #3

Trump's character is very, very bad. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #2

I would argue that you could have worked harder laserhaas Jun 2016 #5

How do you know how hard I worked? I don't understand your response. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #9

Isnt Bernie's loss...our loss laserhaas Jun 2016 #15

I supported Bernie from the beginning, contributed to his campaign, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #18

I hear you and....sigh laserhaas Jun 2016 #23

character is acknowledging reality, accepting and moving into the next phase nt msongs Jun 2016 #4

Why are we rehashing the primary race? It's over. It's GE time. LonePirate Jun 2016 #6

November is not over. 840high Jun 2016 #35

I care more about policy than character. ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #7

That's absurd. If the policy comes from lacking in character laserhaas Jun 2016 #11

Character is so subjective that I don't think about it very much. ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #42

The trend here...is as telltale laserhaas Jun 2016 #8

As a History Major I'd Caution Against Taking a Puritan View of Character in a President Stallion Jun 2016 #10

JFK is an example...of your paradigm..suggested laserhaas Jun 2016 #13

JFK was not squeaky clean. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #19

That was the point...He had flaws...but was exceptional laserhaas Jun 2016 #24

JFK-s principle campaign issue was an outright lie. okasha Jun 2016 #30

Opinions vary laserhaas Jun 2016 #43

Opinions on the so-called "missile gap" do not vary. okasha Jun 2016 #65

He kept I.S. out of a war with Russia...over Cuba laserhaas Jun 2016 #71

That's US, not I,S, okasha Jun 2016 #81

Picky...picker pikki laserhaas Jun 2016 #82

Anyone who lived through those days. okasha Jun 2016 #89

Why are we fighting a primary that's over? RandySF Jun 2016 #12

You wish it was over; and that's a troubling thing laserhaas Jun 2016 #14

Well RandySF Jun 2016 #17

That would be unwise...DU..DK .etc...speaks the will laserhaas Jun 2016 #20

The will of the people is reflected in their votes. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #32

November is coming. 840high Jun 2016 #36

Pshaw laserhaas Jun 2016 #44

Because some folks... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #78

character is only a part of it. unblock Jun 2016 #16

Your argument does not hold water...he re laserhaas Jun 2016 #22

so... somehow that means only character matters? unblock Jun 2016 #28

My op posed the question and the answers..pro Hillary laserhaas Jun 2016 #46

i voted for bernie so i don't know what you're talking about. unblock Jun 2016 #70

No..you seem to want to be argumentative laserhaas Jun 2016 #72

Jimmy Carter has more character okasha Jun 2016 #21

I don't agree... We had run away inflation and % hikes laserhaas Jun 2016 #25

Runaway inflation does not indicate a flawed character. okasha Jun 2016 #31

You are the one who argued....effectiveness laserhaas Jun 2016 #47

Did you miss the point that completely? okasha Jun 2016 #68

Isnt that what I just said laserhaas Jun 2016 #73

the inflation we had wasn't "runaway" inflation, which is an entirely different animal. unblock Jun 2016 #33

I remember the prices at the time ( being 60 yrs old) laserhaas Jun 2016 #48

I'll always think of Carter 840high Jun 2016 #38

I dont disagree...but he was a flawed POTUS laserhaas Jun 2016 #49

LBJ was pretty much an asshole. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #27

And his character flaws may include fore knowledge laserhaas Jun 2016 #50

Dammit! I knew I forgot to check the character box on that ballot MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #26

Good one laserhaas Jun 2016 #51

Who defines exemplary character? mythology Jun 2016 #29

I prefer Hillary for many reasons, and yes one of the reasons is character La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #34

You can fool all the 840high Jun 2016 #39

Lol. Ok La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #41

I say laserhaas Jun 2016 #52

Love your sig line. 840high Jun 2016 #62

Thanks laserhaas Jun 2016 #75

I agree with you. athena Jun 2016 #66

Certainly couldnt have nothing to do with facts laserhaas Jun 2016 #80

Sanders has shown a decided lack of character in the last few weeks. baldguy Jun 2016 #37

Says you laserhaas Jun 2016 #53

If he were a "gentlemen and a warrior" he would concede & join Clinton to fight RW oppression. baldguy Jun 2016 #93

Probably not. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #40

That speaks to the character of the nation and Nadar laserhaas Jun 2016 #54

It's about leadership and the ability to effectively prosecute an agenda. MADem Jun 2016 #45

I dont disagree..for the most part laserhaas Jun 2016 #55

I do think she is more qualified. MADem Jun 2016 #57

We disagree laserhaas Jun 2016 #59

No, it's about votes XRubicon Jun 2016 #56

Actually...its about rules and vote countings laserhaas Jun 2016 #61

Don't bogart that... pass it XRubicon Jun 2016 #64

Character, proven authenticity, and sound judgment. SamKnause Jun 2016 #58

Very well put laserhaas Jun 2016 #60

Too bad he couldn't get more people to vote for him... XRubicon Jun 2016 #67

Hypothetically, sure. cheapdate Jun 2016 #63

Exactly laserhaas Jun 2016 #76

One difference between Clinton supporters and the uninitiated... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #69

I simply cannot jiin the fray laserhaas Jun 2016 #79

I'll never "endorse" her...I won't come here for cookies and punch if I vote for her. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #94

Not necessarily.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #74

That's not an issue...this time laserhaas Jun 2016 #77

Hillary is the Democratic nominee. grossproffit Jun 2016 #87

I don't care about someone's character. RB TexLa Jun 2016 #83

Obviously...that's why We're in this dilemma laserhaas Jun 2016 #85

The Rethugs spent $70 million and several years trying to damage Hillary's character pnwmom Jun 2016 #84

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #86

It's funny, Sanders supporters have always said that it's about the issues ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #88

Ding, ding, ding! grossproffit Jun 2016 #90

JFK and FDR were absolute bastards. NuclearDem Jun 2016 #91

yes, and she won. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #92