2016 Postmortem

getagrip_already

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63. the fire wasn't even that hot......

Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:06 AM

Oct 2016

If you look at the pictures, it's mostly smoke and water damage. The yard signs melted slightly, but didn't burn. Papers on a desk were covered in soot, but still readable. A sofa was burned, but still had a lot of stuffing and covers.

Even if ballots were in a filing cabinet, or in any kind of package out on a desk, they largely would have survived.

Sure, it's a total loss. You can't use a melted yard sign. And the furniture is too far gone. But really, it wasn't a very hot fire as fires go.

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NC GOP party rep says "completed absentee ballots may have been destroyed" [View all] sufrommich Oct 2016 OP

it is against the law for the GOP to be in possession of completed ballots scheming daemons Oct 2016 #1

That's what I thought. Unless NC has some bizarre rule sufrommich Oct 2016 #6

No so in the case of individuals working there. Coyotl Oct 2016 #16

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #103

most charitable reading of that would be... renegade000 Oct 2016 #3

The campaign can't collect completed ballots liberal N proud Oct 2016 #4

Fishy story right there. BSdetect Oct 2016 #5

I just spoke to an aquaintence and former Board of Election member in Virginia Raine1967 Oct 2016 #8

Election of the POTUS is a federal election, rules do not change from state to state on Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #34

Sounds like illegal voting to me. texanwitch Oct 2016 #9

yup. easy to pick out those that rarely vote or even mopinko Oct 2016 #27

+10x bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #46

Perhaps someone got cold feet... forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #47

Gee someone ask this GOP official workinclasszero Oct 2016 #62

When my mother was alive she spent her last few years in a nursing home. texanwitch Oct 2016 #77

This election it might be better to vote early. texanwitch Oct 2016 #92

Ineptitude is not absent from Govt offices, no argument there. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #111

She was ready to go. texanwitch Oct 2016 #112

Yeah, my dad the same way ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #113

I still get mail addressed to both my parents. texanwitch Oct 2016 #115

Tell the Post Office to discontinue delivering it. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #116

I know. texanwitch Oct 2016 #121

The same damn thing they're accusing us of doing in Texas! KamaAina Oct 2016 #96

The Republicans will do anything to win. texanwitch Oct 2016 #98

On that topic - Read here how Republicans REALLY attempt voting fraud: ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #117

fire pic just showed, broken window, old sofa and about dozen yard signs. (this is a solid D area) Sunlei Oct 2016 #10

Something is not right blue-wave Oct 2016 #12

You got that right workinclasszero Oct 2016 #65

That was my first thought, su! My guess it's their Cha Oct 2016 #13

Why were they holding ballots? RandySF Oct 2016 #15

This could also be insurance fraud itsrobert Oct 2016 #17

Good point. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #69

Looking more and more like a Reichtstag Fire situation yellowcanine Oct 2016 #19

But the spelling was correct on the warning. liberalmuse Oct 2016 #21

Perhaps they were given 'cheat sheets' and stencils. Siwsan Oct 2016 #29

Comic Sans - the people's font klook Oct 2016 #42

Oh NO! radical noodle Oct 2016 #53

Nothing wrong with Comic Sans klook Oct 2016 #94

Whew! radical noodle Oct 2016 #95

The Republicans are all about false flag operations. Just ask Karl Rove about this. Zen Democrat Oct 2016 #23

Right. Remember this? workinclasszero Oct 2016 #67

WTF are they doing with completed ballots Cryptoad Oct 2016 #25

They could hold voter registration forms in the office yellerpup Oct 2016 #30

If they had completed ballots, they're parties to voting fraud. Or else they're lying. hatrack Oct 2016 #31

I dont beleive this at all INdemo Oct 2016 #32

He might be stupid enough to try Ahpook Oct 2016 #88

Well there's Trump's voter fraud for ya! sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #33

My Q? exactly-- WTF are completed ballots doing THERE? n/t TygrBright Oct 2016 #35

That means we have an easy rebuttal to their claims KitSileya Oct 2016 #37

Trump Republicans are creating excuses for their election loss bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #41

NC GOP - "we may be guilty of election fraud" Cosmocat Oct 2016 #43

They will do anything INCLUDING burning down.... usaf-vet Oct 2016 #44

Will the media report on this? CrispyQ Oct 2016 #48

It's all part of their whine over a Trump loss. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #50

Isn't it against the law for parties to hold ballots? wtf? . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #52

Whoa! Wait a minute! workinclasszero Oct 2016 #54

Does anyone know the rules Skidmore Oct 2016 #55

could be applications DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #57

I live here and I smell a rat! You can't store completed absentee ballots in the party headquarters Ford_Prefect Oct 2016 #58

I doubt that is true unless they are phony ballots. Filled out ballots are kept at the Court House appleannie1 Oct 2016 #60

the fire wasn't even that hot...... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #63

Am I the only one who has a hard time believing they didn't do this to themselves? Pacifist Patriot Oct 2016 #64

Smells like a false flag up and down... Adrahil Oct 2016 #74

We need a fuller explanation... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #70

Yes. Since she said "possibly" ballots were there, sounds like there would be only a few in outboxes ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #79

I think the FBI will handle this one... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #83

Here’s a news update on this from Raw Story today ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #105

What ballots in outboxes? LisaL Oct 2016 #99

Show me where it says you cannot mail your ballot in outgoing office mail. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #100

source: it would be violation of NC's State Board of Elections mainer Oct 2016 #78

Double-check that link you posted - it does not link to the quote you posted with it ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #85

Thanks. That was weird. mainer Oct 2016 #87

NC law says possession by anyone other then a near relative or guardian is a felony spirald Oct 2016 #108

Okay. So only relatives can drop ballots in the outgoing mail. Thanks. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #110

A very convenient Reichstag Fire for Mr Trump. Loki Oct 2016 #80

Pretty obvious it was not a professional arsonist. Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #86

Somebody might have wanted to cause minor damage. LisaL Oct 2016 #101

That's my thinking... nt. Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #102

Nice to know Ardoewaan Oct 2016 #81

Washington Post said "sample ballots for early voting" LeftInTX Oct 2016 #84

This is the resume of the Spokeswoman who made the statement: Raine1967 Oct 2016 #89

We're voting by mail in Ohio Marthe48 Oct 2016 #90

Right, "or you can mail it". I take that to include dropping it in the outgoing mail of any office ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #97

Office outbox is not necessarily the USPS spirald Oct 2016 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #109

The way the article reads Marthe48 Oct 2016 #107

If they are claiming to have completed absentee ballots then maybe Trump is right, a rigged system. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #91

I sent a tweet to the author and links the woman quoted: Raine1967 Oct 2016 #93

Did the reporter really misquote or BlackM Oct 2016 #114

I wonder if they meant completed absentee ballot request forms? wildeyed Oct 2016 #119

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