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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: You guys don't get it: the rust belt working class want to be TOLD, not reasoned with [View all]Buckeye_Democrat
(15,035 posts)6. I've lived here all my life too, and I don't think we've crossed the same people.
There are indeed a small number of racists that I've encountered who've used the n-word when African Americans weren't around.
I've likewise overheard AA men talking quite differently among each other when they didn't think white people could hear them. Even their dialects changed. They went from sounding like Neil Degrasse Tyson to sounding like Ice Cube. It reminded me of this Key & Peele skit:
I think most white people around here are like most people - selfish. They're more worried about themselves and their family's well-being.
Fair or not, Hillary had NAFTA attached to her because Bill signed it.
The number of gun nuts that I've worked alongside who get upset about banning assault rifles or large clips has blown my mind too. I ultimately consider that to be self-centered behavior too. They believe that THEY are responsible gun owners, never mind that having a bunch of assault rifles in our society more easily allows mass shootings to happen.
I even worked with two white guys who seemed very bright and pretty "liberal" about most things, but they told me that they were voting for Dum(b)ya back in 2000! When I asked them how they could vote for that IDIOT, they replied that it was payback for Clinton signing gun legislation and how they were convinced Bush would not renew the bans.
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You guys don't get it: the rust belt working class want to be TOLD, not reasoned with [View all]
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
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I often really think some PTB democrats really don't understand the voter demographics
RKP5637
Nov 2016
#1
I want to be clear: I wasn't talking about Democrats...I was talking Blue Collar, not Blue Party
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#2
No. I'm not. And when you said, "There are a few of those" you fucking admitted it
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#48
Read this article for perspective. "On Rural America - Understanding Isn't the Problem"
SharonAnn
Nov 2016
#25
I didn't want to get mired down in politics today, but couldn't resist having a look at DU.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2016
#36
I am a liberal farmer. I haven't left because I liked farming too much. Am retired now
JimBeard
Nov 2016
#68
I have a feeling they could only be TOLD by an old white rich guy, though
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2016
#11
Calling them idiots, morons, dumbasses, etc. hasn't converted one single teabagger for me....
johnfromokc
Nov 2016
#37
I've lived here all my life too, and I don't think we've crossed the same people.
Buckeye_Democrat
Nov 2016
#6
So fuck 'em. I say stop trying to appeal to them. We've met the enemy, and they are them.
MADem
Nov 2016
#9
oh-- I bet there's all kinds of "facts" they believe about Hillary being the devil etc
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2016
#12
Yep, they cannot stand for minorities to "get" anything but ticket back where their ancestors came
Hoyt
Nov 2016
#19
They also inflate what they think they get...it's not just 'low-information', it's *stupid*
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#47
This is so spot on...yep. They tore down a steel mill (career) and they'll build
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#50
They've traded their guns for Social Security, Medicare, a Free Press, and the Environment
bucolic_frolic
Nov 2016
#30
You look like a good person to me. I agree with you some, but not all, Laydee B.
Mc Mike
Nov 2016
#31
Your point of contention is apt, for sure, because the KGB, Comey, suppression,
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#39
What is this: "documented workers get incentives to which they are not entitled"
LonePirate
Nov 2016
#51
Sorry sweets, but you're just incorrect. And supporting a racist *IS* racist, whether
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#54