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2016 Postmortem

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flamingdem

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Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:43 PM Dec 2016

Wisconsin recount observer says Waukesha County is double-counting Donald Trump votes [View all]

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/waukesha-wisconsin-double-donald-trump/381/

As the statewide Wisconsin recount continues to get underway, the recount observers representing various presidential candidates have been sharing their first hand experiences online. Observers in some counties have found no issues at all, while others have reported concerns and suspicious incidents. But one recount observer Waukesha County is now making the flat out accusation that county officials are purposely double counting Donald Trump’s votes and pulling other shenanigans during the recount.

The accusation comes from recount observer John West, who has been documenting his experiences on his own publicly visible Facebook page. On Sunday evening he flatly declared that “I’m calling out fraud.” West went on to make the following specific accusations: “Waukesha County Wisconsin is obstructing the recount blatantly. Making up rules to shut out allowed observers. Double counting Republican ballots. Taking machines out and returning machines that break down after midnight hoping to avoid any observers.”

In the comments section of his own post, linked above, he went on to elaborate that “They aren’t invalidating clear duplicate and unsigned ballots that were mailed in,” thus explaining how the double-counting is taking place.

These are serious accusations of improper behavior, which if proven true would represent criminal fraud. We’re reaching out to Mr. West to determine what evidence he has in terms of documenting the behavior in question. But the mere fact that a Wisconsin observer is making these accusations is newsworthy in and of itself, as he claims to have witnessed all of the above with his own eyes. This is particularly notable in that Waukesha is one of just twelve Wisconsin counties (out of seventy-two) which have are refusing to a hand recount, instead relying on a machine recount.
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very strange. ucrdem Dec 2016 #1
First Republicans cause problems and irregularities, then they sue about those to halt recount Land Shark Dec 2016 #2
I SAID this. If they were able to steal the election why can't they steal the recount Maraya1969 Dec 2016 #3
My first awareness of this issue was 2004 Ohio- and yes - the obstructions of the process and Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2016 #6
Good point. nikto Dec 2016 #60
Sure hope this guy is talking to the green lawyers - key words "if proven true" - this is exactly Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2016 #4
WTF! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #5
WHAAAAAT??? blueseas Dec 2016 #7
Waukesha is critical to republicans. Watch and record it carefully. 33taw Dec 2016 #13
Waukesha county has been a rats nest of republiClown mischief for a long time. Snarkoleptic Dec 2016 #56
Yes it has been. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #61
Thanks! blueseas Dec 2016 #63
Interesting. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #8
I'm wondering if it's mostly orchestrated by a small group flamingdem Dec 2016 #10
Reminds me of the Republican operative who went into the Seminole County elections office Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #16
I am convinced this election BELONGS TO US flamingdem Dec 2016 #9
can this guy document what is being done by way of video? n/t orleans Dec 2016 #11
Waukesha has a long history of election "problems". summerschild Dec 2016 #12
+1... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2016 #44
Lot's of rich Freepers willing to make mischief in that county harun Dec 2016 #71
Lots of involved Democrats working the polls every election day, too. PeaceNikki Dec 2016 #76
Time for the Feds to land with Big Feet in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, N. Carolina NBachers Dec 2016 #14
I know right - how could she have survived the last round flamingdem Dec 2016 #15
+1000 oasis Dec 2016 #50
She should be in jail diane in sf Dec 2016 #55
She's not our County clerk any more - hasn't been since November 2012. PeaceNikki Dec 2016 #77
Kathy Nicholaus is no longer clerk in Waukesha County dragonlady Dec 2016 #78
This sort of agrees with my skeptical theory bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #17
You can always count on Waukesha to pull felony election fraud. rec, thanks, nt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #18
WAUKEWSHA. where snotty stole his election. GOP rats. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #19
It's sort of delicious... forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #20
Is this a reputable source? nycbos Dec 2016 #21
PalmerReports absolutely is reputable. But note, he is asking if this is can be substantiated KittyWampus Dec 2016 #25
+1 flamingdem Dec 2016 #26
If America really cared we'd have actual auditors...audit the entire process and the votes. Crash2Parties Dec 2016 #22
My mother was a teacher from 1986 - 2013 when she retired. Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #23
there are 1000 radio stations screaming dems are trying to steal it certainot Dec 2016 #48
Eddie Vedder worded it this way in a lyric: "if you hate something, dont you do it, too?" dionysus Dec 2016 #62
Is kathy nickalous sticking her fingers in the country again? Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #24
The post/claim doesn't exist on the guys Facebook page. Quackers Dec 2016 #27
Palmer has an update about this, along with a screen cap Silver Gaia Dec 2016 #31
Will gladly eat crow, but sounds like our version of "birthers." Hope this crud doesn't go 4 years. Hoyt Dec 2016 #28
Exactly. Indydem Dec 2016 #53
Voter suppression and electoral fraud should be punishable by life imprisonment 47of74 Dec 2016 #29
The post on the facebook page has been removed TheHak Dec 2016 #30
Where the hell is the DOJ???????????? Ford_Prefect Dec 2016 #32
I don't have any faith in the U.S. anymore. C Moon Dec 2016 #33
I don't have any faith in the U.S. anymore. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #43
Isn't this exactly what Trump encouraged his voters to do? Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #34
Stein is asking for more volunteers for Waukesha . I can't but it is not too far from Milwk, Chgo or lunasun Dec 2016 #35
Republicans cheat? LakeArenal Dec 2016 #36
Nobody should be surprised at this at all. Alekzander Dec 2016 #37
I feel like the can of worms is slowly being pried open. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #38
Could be worse... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #39
That county seems unreliablr TheHak Dec 2016 #40
WAUKESHA: Election Systems & Software DS200 ... Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #49
Jesus Hekate Dec 2016 #41
watch the recount LIVE here, I hear lots of Johnson votes. Sunlei Dec 2016 #42
This is pretty interesting! flamingdem Dec 2016 #45
Thanks! 100 current viewers. Quackers Dec 2016 #46
46 viewers watch the empty room now. all the tiny, 'districts' had way to many opportunities to Sunlei Dec 2016 #58
Thank you...din't know we could watch the recount...excellent. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #52
Who is the rude witch who is cutting off discussion? HelenWheels Dec 2016 #65
Ok so, they beat 'em at Standing Rock SD, now move to Wisconsin! lonestarnot Dec 2016 #47
knr triron Dec 2016 #51
They need more observers there。 Plus they need lawyers。 UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #54
Like Smokey counting out the weed money he owes to Big Worm. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #57
I thought the Clinton lawyers were monitoring this, too. Where the hell are they? Vinca Dec 2016 #59
When you policies are weak, Turbineguy Dec 2016 #64
If you steal an election and do it right, recounts won't change anything. Coyotl Dec 2016 #66
We need an audit flamingdem Dec 2016 #67
We need to eliminate our "Trust a Republican" vote counting system. Coyotl Dec 2016 #68
GOP gets away with this every single time....... Where are the lawyers to challenge? UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #69
Trump did do a rally before the election Seasider Dec 2016 #70
Im surprised no one has really talked about this double-voting until now. Cyrusvirus Dec 2016 #72
You have very accurate intuition! flamingdem Dec 2016 #73
Is Bob Fitrakis onto this I wonder? triron Dec 2016 #74
I think people are stretched thin flamingdem Dec 2016 #75
Fitrakis is part of the Stein team dragonlady Dec 2016 #79
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