2016 Postmortem

mythology

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22. Um no

Fri Dec 9, 2016, 05:35 PM

Dec 2016

Actually the national polls were pretty close, off by a point or two. Just because you really want to believe something, doesn't actually make it true. And the state polls were in line with historical averages going back to 1972.

Yes Clinton was more likely to win than not, but it a small lead with a high number of undecided voters, didn't mean Clinton had some insurmountable lead in the polls.

Please actually bother to go look at the polling data, especially the 538 data, and you will see that you're wrong on this.

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All the network news agencies (CNN, MSNBC, FNC, New York Times, etc., ALL!.) are fake news agencies! [View all] Joe941 Dec 2016 OP

Mobilize Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #1

Wonder how bad their Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #2

I hope they go out of business. Joe941 Dec 2016 #4

Yeah well that's a lot of people losing a lot of jobs that you're "hoping" for... SticksnStones Dec 2016 #35

Yeah I don't want that... white_wolf Dec 2016 #47

Actually the jobs would be replaced by a better media - one that doesn't make new up! Joe941 Dec 2016 #49

Me too! Actually about 6 months earlier! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #29

And they are normalizing Trump get the red out Dec 2016 #3

I also think they're afraid of retaliation from Putin as well nt maryellen99 Dec 2016 #5

Good point get the red out Dec 2016 #9

Yup. They have been bought and paid for my Trump and his cronies. Joe941 Dec 2016 #6

"my Trump" A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #12

I agree that the networks share fake news - OhZone Dec 2016 #7

Even the polls for Bernie (surprise win in Michigan) were fake! Joe941 Dec 2016 #8

I think this thread is fake news. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #10

ditto. nt SticksnStones Dec 2016 #36

Yep, crude muddying of the waters. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #43

+1, They allow their guest to bold face ass lie !!! What's more fake than that !! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11

How about tag teaming a lone progressive with 2-3 repubs! Joe941 Dec 2016 #50

Manipulative is the word I would use for MSM... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #13

Sadly I have to agree. Joe941 Dec 2016 #46

Slept our way to millions more votes. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #14

They all seem to march down a pretty narrow path speaktruthtopower Dec 2016 #15

they've been fake for a long time. We keep trying to juggle an image and platform that doesn't JCanete Dec 2016 #16

I have to agree-Infotainment. jalan48 Dec 2016 #17

If fake news is more entertaining than real news... Joe941 Dec 2016 #18

It's about brainwashing people. jalan48 Dec 2016 #19

Good point. Joe941 Dec 2016 #20

Thanks for the post. Thought provoking is a good thing. jalan48 Dec 2016 #21

It's about making money brainwashing people meow2u3 Dec 2016 #25

Even better! jalan48 Dec 2016 #26

Um no mythology Dec 2016 #22

Purpose of thread is to minimize the actual RW wackadoodle deliberate fake news stories, A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #24

That's not fake news Bradical79 Dec 2016 #23

I just shut off MSNBC when they broke offf to cover Shitler in Michigan nt doc03 Dec 2016 #27

Bunch of propaganda channels!!! People need to turn that shit off AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #28

I agree, but curiosity keeps people coming back - I'm guilty of that from time to time. Joe941 Dec 2016 #30

You know what, I have long given up all those channels for YEARS but you know what? AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #31

democrat supporters? Next time, try Democratic supporters Peigan68 Dec 2016 #32

Noted. will do. Joe941 Dec 2016 #34

You're half right: the voter apathy line is a crock of horseshit. ucrdem Dec 2016 #33

Its explained perfectly on morning joe... Joe941 Dec 2016 #51

And so you're getting truth from Morning Joe? pnwmom Dec 2016 #57

Or is it fake news?!? Joe941 Dec 2016 #60

He has his bias. But it's wrong to lump all MSM together and pretend, as you pnwmom Dec 2016 #61

Not saying there is no difference... Joe941 Dec 2016 #62

LOL. You should explain that to the guy who wrote the OP. nt pnwmom Dec 2016 #63

Nah Dem2 Dec 2016 #37

Yep, transparent & obvious A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #44

So the "russian conspiracy" story from the same news outlets must be fake as well. nt m-lekktor Dec 2016 #38

This is a Rethug meme -- that MSM are as bad as the fake sites. pnwmom Dec 2016 #39

This right here. Let it sink. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #42

Of course some are worse than others - but they are all in the game. Joe941 Dec 2016 #45

No they are not the same. The fake new sites publish fiction. pnwmom Dec 2016 #52

so you don't think FNC makes fake news? Joe941 Dec 2016 #48

Your OP specifically refers to "ALL" of them, not solely to FNC. nt pnwmom Dec 2016 #53

See post #51. MSNBC admits to doing exactly what my thread starting post says! Joe941 Dec 2016 #56

Again, your OP says "ALL." You clearly weren't reading the WA Post, pnwmom Dec 2016 #58

You were defending MSM even while they admit to doing what i said. Joe941 Dec 2016 #59

no demon in basement Dec 2016 #40

This is divde and conquer disinformation, people, let it sink. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #41

Who would you consider to be 'real'? Kuhl Dec 2016 #54

He likes Morning Joe. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #55