2016 Postmortem

mythology

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44. You're setting up an inaccurate comparison

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:03 PM

Dec 2016

Trump's campaign wasn't expressly white nationalist. It was bigoted, it was full of hate, but he never once said to hate all black people or all immigrants. The closest you can argue is his approach to Islam. Yes I think he really does dislike blacks and Hispanics and Muslims and his treatment of women is horrible. But his contention was that he would bring jobs back to Americans. There is a very strong undercurrent of racism, but it wasn't front and center preaching hatred of minorities. It certainly appealed to those who do, but you're arguing against your own opinion of Trump rather than against his actual campaign.

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If a large group of blacks voted en masse for a black nationalist who preached hatred of whites [View all] EffieBlack Dec 2016 OP

Glad you made this point!!!! bravenak Dec 2016 #1

You don't think they'd buy the "they're not racist-they just liked his economic message?" argument? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #5

Of course not. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #8

old black people who lived through legalized segregation are treated horribly if they say anything JI7 Dec 2016 #2

Unbelievable, isn't it? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #6

Why does it need to be about race in the first place? If someone is an asshole then call them on it NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #9

we are talking about people who voted for Trump and there are people who defend them if they are JI7 Dec 2016 #10

Yes and there are many people on this forum with people they love who voted for Trump NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #14

they listened to Trump denigrate , demonize and slander people and VOTED TO MAKE HIM FUCKING JI7 Dec 2016 #15

Because Democrats failed them for too long NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #17

democrats failed them by supporting civil rights. explain why the fuck they didn't support feingold JI7 Dec 2016 #19

Then they are stupidly vengeful against their treestar Dec 2016 #58

They had no issues about voting for a racist True_Blue Dec 2016 #31

Sorry you have Nazi sympathizers in your family DoctorMyEyes Dec 2016 #53

Sounds like you desperately want to treestar Dec 2016 #57

Clinton won among the working class. She won among those for whom the top issue is the economy. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #12

Why does it need to be about race? Come on, this is America, it's always about race brush Dec 2016 #13

I've never seen so many people be so racially divisive as I am seeing here NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #20

You're probably right. There isn't much sympathy for Trump voters or those who defend them here. brush Dec 2016 #22

lol, shows how much you know about racism and what poc deal with all the fucking time. JI7 Dec 2016 #23

I know better than you know, thanks... NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #26

wow, you seem resentful towards minorities and with threats ....... JI7 Dec 2016 #27

You really think your shit doesn't stink, don't you? EffieBlack Dec 2016 #29

Wow... DoctorMyEyes Dec 2016 #54

LOL Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #25

If black people talking about our experience with race makes you so angry you won't vote Democratic EffieBlack Dec 2016 #28

Please don't confuse a message board for a party. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #33

You don't belong here treestar Dec 2016 #59

K&R Hello and Thank You! lunasun Dec 2016 #3

We all know the answer to that question. But some will ignore or obfuscate your point. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #4

I might not like their choice but I would not stereotype all of those who voted for them NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #7

they voted for a candidate who ran an openly bigoted campaign . that's what his campaign was about JI7 Dec 2016 #11

For some people it was NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #16

for most people it was about bigotry that's why they voted for a candidate who attacked JI7 Dec 2016 #18

That's a lie NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #21

i know they are ok with bigoted attacks on minorities since they voted for the one who did that to JI7 Dec 2016 #24

I'm willing to bet that you probably think that many minorities Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #30

They still tolerated DPutins bigotry, that's still not good uponit7771 Dec 2016 #39

I would hope that they would try to understand and address the legitimate grievances Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #32

yeah, but reality is that most white people don't even like blm JI7 Dec 2016 #34

Part of the problem Black Lives Matter has is that they protest some things that turn out mythology Dec 2016 #38

So if they're 5% incorrect they're 100% wrong? Isn't that a high bar set up for failure? tia uponit7771 Dec 2016 #40

why do demand more for blm.But for presidEnt trump us just great ? JI7 Dec 2016 #47

That's great but it doesn't answer my question. EffieBlack Dec 2016 #35

It would be a poor decision on their part if they did respond as you suggest. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #37

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #36

Heads would be exploding mcar Dec 2016 #41

And then they got a russian intelligence service to flip the central tabulation machines to win... UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #42

Thank you Effie! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #43

You're setting up an inaccurate comparison mythology Dec 2016 #44

I didn't say the candidate in my hypo was "expressly" black nationalist. I just said they WERE one EffieBlack Dec 2016 #45

As I wrote above... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #50

So he's not a white supremacists until he explicitly express's such? Really?!?! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #48

A strong "undercurrent" is just as dangerous as outright racism nt Quayblue Dec 2016 #49

+1, there are too many people trying to normalize diet racist on DU uponit7771 Dec 2016 #60

Oh one righteous kick and recommend! ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #46

Thank you!!! DoctorMyEyes Dec 2016 #51

Anybody that liberals/conservatives would call black nationalist is probably someone I'd vote for. DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #52

White fragility makes me ashamed to be white resistance2016 Dec 2016 #55

Please don't be ashamed Quayblue Dec 2016 #56

Excellent post. It's such a double standard. kcr Dec 2016 #61