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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
30. Of course that's how the police behave...that's their expected behavior.
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:57 AM
May 2012

Cops are brutal against occupy.

That doesn't make smashing windows and buring flags a good idea.

Whether one thinks it is justified or not, it is not a successful protest tactic. There is no sense in defending it.

It gets MSM headlines and then that's the only thing people know.

Instead of "Protesters Burn Flag" a much better headline for us would be "Police Attack Non-Violent Demonstrators".

Remember that UC Davis pepper spray cop?
Remember Tony Bolongna attacking those girls in New York?

Those are the incidents we remember as successes. The MSM is just looking for negative stuff on Occupy so why give them the opportunity?.

Even trying to take over that empty civic center in Oakland, and the cops excessive reaction, made some very good videos. The MSM might have been compeled to cover it. But instead they had the flag burning incident and that's really all they needed to make a shitty news show.

I know it's impossible for a leaderless resistence, but Occupy could really benefit from a little message discipline.

Occupy is not all about defending occupiers no matter what they do, and justifying it based on the behavior of the police. Sometimes protecting Occupy means protecting it from infiltrators and assholes who want to make it look bad on TV.


SF, Seattle and Cleveland eridani May 2012 #1
And what will M$M cover about May Day 2012? freshwest May 2012 #5
They could be paid to go in and do this...these people could movonne May 2012 #11
The occupy movement will be marked by this liberal N proud May 2012 #2
just like the 60's oldhippydude May 2012 #3
I don't blame them. LASlibinSC May 2012 #4
We have a few blame memes in this country that have gotten completely out of hand and are untrue. freshwest May 2012 #6
Manipulated storylines - just like VVAW was infiltrated by RW agents in the 60s to discredit blm May 2012 #7
It seems that Occupy is more vulnerable than those movements. But we have to remember how long those freshwest May 2012 #8
they will continue to disrupt as long as it works G_j May 2012 #16
Yes... LASlibinSC May 2012 #9
I realize that the Occupy Movement likes to be "organic" and "leaderless" MADem May 2012 #10
the friggin borg? U4ikLefty May 2012 #13
Isn't that what consensus is--a borg of sorts? MADem May 2012 #14
Your "frigging borg" comment was a dig on Occupy...don't pretend. U4ikLefty May 2012 #17
No it was not. You need to stop telling people what they think about things and how they feel about MADem May 2012 #18
Your words betray your cries to the contrary. U4ikLefty May 2012 #19
No they don't. And if those are your examples of "unpraiseworthy" posts, your skin is paper thin. MADem May 2012 #20
More insults & still no pro-Occupy posts. Hmmmm U4ikLefty May 2012 #21
The insult flinger is in your mirror. MADem May 2012 #22
How do you propose to keep people like this away from a public event? ellisonz May 2012 #23
Point-n-mock works well. If a hundred (or two hundred) people surround, isolate and shout at MADem May 2012 #25
Your answer is the use of unlawful force. ellisonz May 2012 #26
Force, Schmorce. Pointing and mocking and yelling at lawbreakers is "unlawful force?" MADem May 2012 #27
*le sigh* ellisonz May 2012 #28
"Le Helpless Poor Me" is what you're giving me. MADem May 2012 #33
You seem very angry... ellisonz May 2012 #34
"You seem very angry" is what people say when they don't have a meaningful answer to the points MADem May 2012 #35
And now you're projecting... ellisonz May 2012 #36
You continue to try to make this about me. Waaah, you're angry, waaaah, you're projecting! MADem May 2012 #39
"unlawful force" ellisonz May 2012 #41
Oh, bullshit. MADem May 2012 #44
Moral authority without actual authority is little authority at all. ellisonz May 2012 #45
Then why OCCUPY? Your comment makes no sense! MADem May 2012 #49
No, it's your comments that make no sense pinboy3niner May 2012 #50
Yes, you have a debate. Really. MADem May 2012 #51
It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what Occupiers in the streets are doing... pinboy3niner May 2012 #52
I have eyes and I can see. MADem May 2012 #53
You think Occupiers haven't confronted disruptors, en masse? pinboy3niner May 2012 #55
Well, that's different from what I was hearing before. MADem May 2012 #58
Why keep beating a straw man? ellisonz May 2012 #54
Great post pinboy3niner May 2012 #56
I try to keep it real. ellisonz May 2012 #57
That's the thing though--they haven't made their disapproval clear. MADem May 2012 #59
You know anything else about Oakland & January 28th? U4ikLefty May 2012 #29
Of course that's how the police behave...that's their expected behavior. limpyhobbler May 2012 #30
Here's a video to provide some context. U4ikLefty May 2012 #37
Yeah that video is awesome. limpyhobbler May 2012 #47
Nice to see an honest response...thanks!!! U4ikLefty May 2012 #60
Gee, and you are blaming ME? MADem May 2012 #32
Don't blame me for your ignorance. U4ikLefty May 2012 #38
I am not the ignorant one, here. You have a nice day, now! MADem May 2012 #40
That's all you've got? U4ikLefty May 2012 #42
You're plainly unclear on the concept. MADem May 2012 #43
Broken Record. U4ikLefty May 2012 #46
That's not accurate, either. NT MADem May 2012 #48
I'm Ashamed IvanTheRed1233 May 2012 #31
ACORN LASlibinSC May 2012 #12
I've never understood why nobody has ever tried to get O'Keefe the same way. Chan790 May 2012 #24
Just following the military RobertEarl May 2012 #15
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