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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
47. Yeah that video is awesome.
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:46 AM
May 2012

Saw it when it came out, just watched it again.

To your point that MSM will never give us a fair shake and are the mouthpiece for the 1%...

Yeah I get your point and to a certain extent agree. But the MSM is not monolithic and we have the ability to partially influence what they do.

There are progressive and liberal media that have a positive attitude toward Occupy. They want to cover us but can't support "violence" like breaking things.

Media is kind of a food chain. First get positive coverage on small friendly outlets like Democracy Now, Majority Report, Citizen Radio, Thom Hartmann, etc. If it's a compeling story it might get to the next level. That would be like the shows on Current TV like Young Turks, etc. From there MSNBC will pick it up. Lawrence O'Donnell, Al Sharpton, RachelMaddow, Ed Schultz. Those shows are sympathetic to the movement and will give positive coverage if we give them an opportunity. They have in the past. And on up the chain to CNN, etc.

It is also good when stories go viral natually, saturating all interwebs, bypassing the MSM entirely. But really even in that context, a little positive media coverage goes a long way.

You're 100% right that Occupy is not going to get a fair shake. Any little thing, like one lone person breaking a window, gets blown way out of proportion. And any amount of violence by police seems to be overlooked.

There is a way to get positive coverage by working up the media food chain, but it would take a certain level of organization and discipline. And/or luck. Or not? I don't really know, I'm just saying ideas and reading threads. Not trying to suggest I know exactly what's best.

In the 1990s and 2000s when we protested trade deals and banks, we made a mistake of having not enough serious media strategy. It's a challenge when you're working with loosely organized groups.

SF, Seattle and Cleveland eridani May 2012 #1
And what will M$M cover about May Day 2012? freshwest May 2012 #5
They could be paid to go in and do this...these people could movonne May 2012 #11
The occupy movement will be marked by this liberal N proud May 2012 #2
just like the 60's oldhippydude May 2012 #3
I don't blame them. LASlibinSC May 2012 #4
We have a few blame memes in this country that have gotten completely out of hand and are untrue. freshwest May 2012 #6
Manipulated storylines - just like VVAW was infiltrated by RW agents in the 60s to discredit blm May 2012 #7
It seems that Occupy is more vulnerable than those movements. But we have to remember how long those freshwest May 2012 #8
they will continue to disrupt as long as it works G_j May 2012 #16
Yes... LASlibinSC May 2012 #9
I realize that the Occupy Movement likes to be "organic" and "leaderless" MADem May 2012 #10
the friggin borg? U4ikLefty May 2012 #13
Isn't that what consensus is--a borg of sorts? MADem May 2012 #14
Your "frigging borg" comment was a dig on Occupy...don't pretend. U4ikLefty May 2012 #17
No it was not. You need to stop telling people what they think about things and how they feel about MADem May 2012 #18
Your words betray your cries to the contrary. U4ikLefty May 2012 #19
No they don't. And if those are your examples of "unpraiseworthy" posts, your skin is paper thin. MADem May 2012 #20
More insults & still no pro-Occupy posts. Hmmmm U4ikLefty May 2012 #21
The insult flinger is in your mirror. MADem May 2012 #22
How do you propose to keep people like this away from a public event? ellisonz May 2012 #23
Point-n-mock works well. If a hundred (or two hundred) people surround, isolate and shout at MADem May 2012 #25
Your answer is the use of unlawful force. ellisonz May 2012 #26
Force, Schmorce. Pointing and mocking and yelling at lawbreakers is "unlawful force?" MADem May 2012 #27
*le sigh* ellisonz May 2012 #28
"Le Helpless Poor Me" is what you're giving me. MADem May 2012 #33
You seem very angry... ellisonz May 2012 #34
"You seem very angry" is what people say when they don't have a meaningful answer to the points MADem May 2012 #35
And now you're projecting... ellisonz May 2012 #36
You continue to try to make this about me. Waaah, you're angry, waaaah, you're projecting! MADem May 2012 #39
"unlawful force" ellisonz May 2012 #41
Oh, bullshit. MADem May 2012 #44
Moral authority without actual authority is little authority at all. ellisonz May 2012 #45
Then why OCCUPY? Your comment makes no sense! MADem May 2012 #49
No, it's your comments that make no sense pinboy3niner May 2012 #50
Yes, you have a debate. Really. MADem May 2012 #51
It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what Occupiers in the streets are doing... pinboy3niner May 2012 #52
I have eyes and I can see. MADem May 2012 #53
You think Occupiers haven't confronted disruptors, en masse? pinboy3niner May 2012 #55
Well, that's different from what I was hearing before. MADem May 2012 #58
Why keep beating a straw man? ellisonz May 2012 #54
Great post pinboy3niner May 2012 #56
I try to keep it real. ellisonz May 2012 #57
That's the thing though--they haven't made their disapproval clear. MADem May 2012 #59
You know anything else about Oakland & January 28th? U4ikLefty May 2012 #29
Of course that's how the police behave...that's their expected behavior. limpyhobbler May 2012 #30
Here's a video to provide some context. U4ikLefty May 2012 #37
Yeah that video is awesome. limpyhobbler May 2012 #47
Nice to see an honest response...thanks!!! U4ikLefty May 2012 #60
Gee, and you are blaming ME? MADem May 2012 #32
Don't blame me for your ignorance. U4ikLefty May 2012 #38
I am not the ignorant one, here. You have a nice day, now! MADem May 2012 #40
That's all you've got? U4ikLefty May 2012 #42
You're plainly unclear on the concept. MADem May 2012 #43
Broken Record. U4ikLefty May 2012 #46
That's not accurate, either. NT MADem May 2012 #48
I'm Ashamed IvanTheRed1233 May 2012 #31
ACORN LASlibinSC May 2012 #12
I've never understood why nobody has ever tried to get O'Keefe the same way. Chan790 May 2012 #24
Just following the military RobertEarl May 2012 #15
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