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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all]Gothmog
(154,181 posts)85. From day 1, Bernie built a campaign to appeal to 30%.
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So if, from day one, they didnt think they needed more than 30%, why would they actually run a campaign and build a culture designed to win more than his 30% ceiling? As that article notes, even way back in early 2019, Sanders was picking fights and creating enemies out of potential allies.
We saw that in Sanders refusal to broaden his message to bring in more people. When I said exactly that on Meet the Press, that the problem with Bernie Sanders is that he has the exact same message he had four years ago when he lost to Hillary Clinton 60-40, the response from the Sanders campaign was, well, this:
If your message wasnt a majority message four years ago, and you want to win, wouldnt you tweak it? They didnt. Proudly and explicitly did not tweak it. They had zero intention of growing new support by broadening and expanding their message. (Sanders famously refused to even inject more biography into his stump speech to humanize him more.)
Sanders and his campaign saw that their ceiling was 30%, and they built an entire strategy around winning with 30%. That means that instead of seeing the other 70% of voters as allies, they saw them as THE ENEMY. Even when there was ideological alignment.
We saw that in Sanders refusal to broaden his message to bring in more people. When I said exactly that on Meet the Press, that the problem with Bernie Sanders is that he has the exact same message he had four years ago when he lost to Hillary Clinton 60-40, the response from the Sanders campaign was, well, this:
Link to tweet
If your message wasnt a majority message four years ago, and you want to win, wouldnt you tweak it? They didnt. Proudly and explicitly did not tweak it. They had zero intention of growing new support by broadening and expanding their message. (Sanders famously refused to even inject more biography into his stump speech to humanize him more.)
Sanders and his campaign saw that their ceiling was 30%, and they built an entire strategy around winning with 30%. That means that instead of seeing the other 70% of voters as allies, they saw them as THE ENEMY. Even when there was ideological alignment.
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Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all]
DanTex
Feb 2020
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sanders' agenda is dependent on a magical voter revolution that I would love to understand
Gothmog
Feb 2020
#18
In other words its like how after a rumor that a Walmart store might be closing and they release a
cstanleytech
Mar 2020
#21
Can he also *fight for* eradicating mosquitoes, forgiveness of all credit card debt and mortages,
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#15
Again, I never took sanders to be a serious candidate and do not understand his appeal
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#73
There's no such thing as "fighting", though. It's just something online people made up.
Recursion
Mar 2020
#22
Bernie may not win the entire war but please remember in 2ish years when we have
Sunlei
Mar 2020
#40
If they have the senate majority, I can assure you, it will be very easy for them to obstruct.
HarlanPepper
Mar 2020
#81
Yours being the insulting behavior you consistently point to as "how is this winning over voters"?
LanternWaste
Mar 2020
#41
The Democratic leadership should fight for Medicare for All and the Green New Deal.
BeckyDem
Mar 2020
#71
But it comes across as bribery...offering free stuff in exchange for a vote.
unitedwethrive
Mar 2020
#72
we need no fighting we need actual stuff done, exactly what sanders fails to get done
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#80
So Bernie is saying he will talk the talk but not actually walk the walk.
Vivienne235729
Mar 2020
#89